L00b 441 #7753 Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Car Boot said: The EU enforcing austerity on a country with over five million people living in absolute poverty is wholly irrelevant? Ah, I see. We shouldn't judge the EU, just stay quiet and keep giving our money to the beast. The EU isn't enforcing austerity in Italy, the populist joke that passes for the current Italian government is maintaining it through its ineptitude. Now, can you try and make a cogent argument for a change, instead of disingenuously misrepresenting my post with your strawman? I'm asking once, in the clear, and nicely. Next one like that I'll just report. Edited December 20, 2018 by L00b Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hobinfoot 25 #7754 Posted December 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said: I am. Are you aware that 30.5 million people didn't? Are you suggesting that around 48 million can vote in the UK ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat 10 #7755 Posted December 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, hobinfoot said: Are you suggesting that around 48 million can vote in the UK ? Probably more than that now but in the referendum year of 2016 it was 47.3 million. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Litotes 63 #7756 Posted December 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Car Boot said: No. That's incorrect. We don't record the preference of those who didn't vote, for whatever reason. The correct reply was that 16,141,241 didn't vote to Leave. Any other number is a logical fallacy, so please don't misrepresent the facts in this way again. No, that is perfectly correct. Those that didn't vote, did not vote to leave. Spin that! 3 hours ago, Car Boot said: You are aware that 17.4 million people voted to Leave the EU? 498 MP's voted to trigger Article 50 in the Commons, only 114 opposed. A majority of 384. At the 2017 General Election the two main parties that supported Leaving the EU won 87.5 per cent of the vote. Meanwhile, the Liberal Democrats who oppose Brexit and want a second referendum are high in the polls... Oh hang on. And now there appears to be a majority who would want a second referendum as opposed to Dictator May's "Jump off a cliff" option. So you'll back this majority then? Or will you change your stance about democracy? (Again) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
I1L2T3 10 #7757 Posted December 20, 2018 paragon of democracy Putin has declared that May must respect the will of the people. Couldn’t make this up. Brexiters are Putin’s poodles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat 10 #7758 Posted December 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Litotes said: No, that is perfectly correct. Those that didn't vote, did not vote to leave. Spin that! Which ever way the Brextremists spin it, after all the hype, fake news, electoral illegalities, financial irregularities,Russian involvement, lies on buses, and false promises the leave campaign could not convince more than 36.4% of the electorate to support them. We don't need a second referendum just a government with the balls to say that there is no democratic mandate for this mess we find ourselves in and put an end to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
lottiecass 17 #7759 Posted December 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Top Cats Hat said: Which ever way the Brextremists spin it, after all the hype, fake news, electoral illegalities, financial irregularities,Russian involvement, lies on buses, and false promises the leave campaign could not convince more than 36.4% of the electorate to support them. We don't need a second referendum just a government with the balls to say that there is no democratic mandate for this mess we find ourselves in and put an end to it. I've just been told that there's a petition on facebook for a no deal Brexit with a quarter million on it, not using facebook is it true? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RJRB 688 #7760 Posted December 21, 2018 18 minutes ago, lottiecass said: I've just been told that there's a petition on facebook for a no deal Brexit with a quarter million on it, not using facebook is it true? Has Putin signed it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
lottiecass 17 #7761 Posted December 21, 2018 Could have RJRB, he loves Brexit. That is if it exists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat 10 #7762 Posted December 21, 2018 26 minutes ago, lottiecass said: I've just been told that there's a petition on facebook for a no deal Brexit with a quarter million on it, not using facebook is it true? I've no idea but I doubt another meaningless facebook petition is going to change anything one way or the other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
lottiecass 17 #7763 Posted December 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Top Cats Hat said: I've no idea but I doubt another meaningless facebook petition is going to change anything one way or the other. You mean like your opinions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RJRB 688 #7764 Posted December 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, lottiecass said: Could have RJRB, he loves Brexit. That is if it exists. I believe that Brexit does exist in many forms, but I cannot explain further as we still await a definition other than it means Brexit. Sorry I cannot be more helpful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...