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  1. Any positive consequence of Brexit can -and absolutely should- be posted in this thread. But the UK tech sector doing well is not a consequence of Brexit, any which way anyone should try and spin it: its long been doing very well indeed, since before Brexit was even a notion, never mind a referendum. If it still does just as well by end 2021, i.e. a year from actual Brexit at end December 2020, then by all means have a good chest thump about it. ...then have a look at how many British jobs did these unicorns (or merely tech startups) create and sustain, and how many hospitals did they buy the NHS : being worth something, even as a unicorn, is not synonymous with profitability. And yet -broadly speaking of course- it's (tax on) profits that buy the NHS hospitals, not turnover or cashflow, and never 'worth'
  2. So, you can't back it up. Do you feel like retracting your claims now? Specifically: that I "disagree with Gonzalez Pons"; that according to me "its all fine"; and that I "prefer the future of the EU being decided behind closed doors with no input from the voters". Anytime you're ready.
  3. Can you back up either or both of the claims in bold above, with quote(s) from my post?
  4. The "leaders of the EU" are, and have at all times been, the 28 heads of state which compose the European Council. Last I checked, each of them is still democratically elected. The President of that Council is also democratically elected by the Council members. Neither the EU Parliament President, nor the Commission President -nor the European Council President indeed- "govern" the EU: they help implement, in their respective capacities, the governance collectively decided by the European Council. Seems you are still mistaking the EU for a sovereign country or a federation. It's an easy mistake for those unwilling to educate themselves about facts. Unless you are barracking. It's hard to tell, with your frequently-factless rethoric. EDIT: given the methodology through which British PMs end up in the job (inclusive of party leadership selection), with particular emphasis on the clear failings of the FPTP system, I can't really see how the UK has any lessons left to give about 'democracy'. You have a system, at best it's no worse than others. But it's a long, very long shout from better-in-class PR-based systems, that reflect the choices of the electorate so much more closely than FPTP ever could.
  5. You haven't left yet. Many HNWI top rate taxpayers (typically running high corpo tax-yielding financial service businesses/departments) and professionals with livelihoods threatened by predictable Brexit outcomes, have already long left. More people still, less invested in their UK life and so with comparatively easier life choices, have also left. For those bothered enough to look, some corners of social media have long borne photos of Continent- and Ireland-bound moving trucks and vans, ferry/port concourses, empty UK houses for sale and tearful farewells. Brexodus will become more visible (i.e. harder to ignore...but again, only for those bothered enough about it) in the post-Brexit period come 2021, when the hostile environment and economic slow-down both begin to bite and catch up with the EU27inUK. There might be a brexoding blip in February, that said: we all saw how hate crimes spiked the length and breadth of the country, in the immediate aftermath of the referendum, so given the crowing about 31st January in tabloids and online, there's no reason to suppose it will be any different come 1st February.
  6. A move to improve it, 8 miles away in 3 years' time? Poole voters must be positively delighted
  7. Whoever the not-at-all 'remote, out-of-touch, distant elite' of the Conservative party tell them to, through relevant tabloid mouthpieces. They're not exactly short of options: FoM-uncontrolled immigrants, benefits-abusing types and other ne'er-do-wells, incapable Trusts/management, junior doctors, the intransigeant EU, Meghan Markle... Needed you to ask? EDIT - there was a glaring omission in my list of culpables above: remainers, of course
  8. All this control restored to the not-at-all 'remote, out-of-touch, distant elite' of the Conservative party, seems to be working well for the good people of Poole so far: Poole gets told their A&E is at risk of closure by Conservative government, still elects Tory MP (with stomping 19k majority), sees A&E closure confirmed weeks later by Tory Health Minister. The parallels of the above with the Brexit proceedings, now fully controlled by the not-at-all 'remote, out-of-touch, distant elite' of the Conservative party, are quite amusing.
  9. Could I nominate Brexit Party ex-MEPs? With a €153k severance pay from the EU each, and 29 of them (=€4.4m), not only can they can well afford it...but after all, it's their "success" which peeps in a celebratory mood want to toast on 31/01. Am I right or am I right? PS: we'll be drinking Champagne here, celebrating the end of Mr Farage and associates' collective presence at the EU Parliament.
  10. Always useful to remind everyone what a red herring the UK fishing industry is, in the Brexit debate. Many Brexiteers still have the same "they need us more than we need them" misconceived perception about the issue, as about German car manufacturers and Italian wine producers. They'll make hay of the EU27 loudly putting fishing rights on the negotiation table (look, look, see, they want something we have, so surely they must need us more than we need them), completely oblivious to the economical fact that it's a non-deal-breaking troll, and that the actual negotiating battleground between the UK and the EU will be about getting the UK to subscribe to a dynamic (as opposed to bare) level playing field relationship.
  11. Out of interest, how much have these one-in-the-hand 60-70 jobs, and the Total UK operation, been worth to the Exchequer over the last 6 years? Do you think more, or less, than the two-in-the-bush IQA Elecnor lease and its 300 jobs over the next 5 years?
  12. I'm not interested in proving instances of racism to you (moreover you did not ask me, you asked Longcol). I'm more interested by your sudden focus upon racism, to the apparent exclusion of other, incessant and extremely well-documented types of harassment of Markle by tabloids (hence my own question to you). Is it therefore the case with you, that tabloids get a pass on everything else they've lobbed at Markle, so long as they are not openly racist? Should be even easier for you: a simple yes or no is enough.
  13. Do you have short and/or selective memory syndrome?
  14. The UK ceases to be an EU member state (which is why British MEPs get made redundant then, beside a good few British EU employees). I don't expect Joe Bloggs in the street to notice much superficially, thanks to the time-limited prorogation of 'things as they stand' under the WA, until end 2020 when the WA expires. Then we're back to the 'no deal' cliff-edge, unless a UK-EU FTA is alreafy ratified by then. But for CEOs, whitehall senior types, planners, etc. (and the rest of the world), this change of status is momentous, because Brexit moves beyond political inevitability to finally become legal fact. Because that means no more possibility of withdrawing Theresa May's Article 50 instrument and staying in: you're out for good, and in case of a collective change of mind (democratically sanctioned by a UK referendum or GE of course), you would have to formally apply to rejoin under Article 49 TEU (and the conversation has already been had a few times on here, about the unlikelihood of it, because of fundamental requirements of €, Schengen, etc. under Article 49). That also means, in simplified negotiating terms, that the UK loses any and all leverage, which it still enjoyed since 2016 as a full-fat EU member state. Historians will come to regard 1st Feb 2020 as equally significant as 29 March 2017, when the UK government sent its Article 50 instrument, in terms of historical mistake. I don't expect their analysis to be flattering, unless Leavers manage to deliver on their promises.
  15. I've just seen the news this morning and been reminded, and so I found you a replacement positive: from 1st February 2020, no more UKIP/BxP MEPs at the European Parliament In other good news, the EU27 is willing to let the City access the EU financial markets...in exchange for access to UK fishing waters. Good trolling, there That's 2 lots of good news, got to rebalance now: full access to the EU services market looks borked for the UK (according to EU position for the FTA negotiations agreed in committee yesterday), since the EU will not be pushing to maintain mutual recognition of qualifications. Unless that changes, UK professionals currently in EU (incl. Ireland) might as well pack up and go home, as they'll become unqualified overnight. Same for EU27 in UK, incl. NHS doctors (e.g.)
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