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  1. So is your claim that what testing Public Health England may have done back in January, amounted to a government 'measure', moreover implying that same was part of a carefully thought-out, stepped policy
  2. Testing and contact tracing are not 'measures' when they are carried out of local initiative by a hospital or another, because the interns have heard about this new virus in China in the Lancet. So what 'measures' were these, then? Ordering ventilators? PPE kit for NHS frontline staff? Testing travellers at ports and airports of entry? Even thinking about these? How about merely counting ventilators (do you have 12k, or 8k? Because your HealthSec still seems confused). Was 'herd immunity' such a step, then? I'm not surprised you're defending your government. Nor am I surprised about posters like West77 wallowing in exceptionalism for comfort. It's alright: Covid-19 doesn't care one molecule about politics, still less about incompetent populists.
  3. It'd have been nice of them to introduce stepped measures from January onwards, when they already knew full well about Covid-19 from the Chinese PM. Rather than sit on their thumb until a week ago or so, and then try to spin their incompetence with ever bigger lies. The latest, that the EU invite to partake in pooled ventilator procuring went into Johnson's spam folder. 2 days after Hancock clearly and unambiguously acknowledged that offer on Newsnight, and in the face of an earlier, pretty clear government message that, until last night and the involvement of Johnson's spam folder, the UK's refusal to partake was policy/deliberate. You should see the international press today.
  4. The only strategy tactic which has been proven to 'work' so far, is to enforce isolation rigidly to curb the R0 , and in the meantime to test systematically and trace positive testers. That takes care of stemming the volume of infection, which is the most important variable affecting lethality. In this morning's news, we now have "drive in" test centres, where you can just turn up (GP prescription required) and get Covid19-tested without leaving your car. That might not be a realistic approach on the scale of GB, but it's worth keeping in mind as a local initiative, to try and help accelerate the volume of testing.
  5. Regrettably, it was. 24/03: 224 new cases. Worst day yet here Trump is reported this morning, to have privately asked Asia and Europe for a helping hand in tackling Covid-19. After finding 6 $trillions (6,000 $billions) down the back of the sofa. That's some political reckoning, brewing in the background.
  6. Those figures were not UK. They're the official figures for Luxembourg, where everyone suspecting infection and requesting a test from their GP, everyone hospitalised with symptoms suggesting infection, and everyone working in healthcare, is getting tested, and the test results are all fed back to the Health Ministry for tracing (the first few confirmed cases between 29 Feb and 8 March were all linked with either northern Italy or Alsace, the following new cases on 10 March were linked with the US and Switzerland), with a "warts-an-all" daily report-briefing by our Health Minister every evening. We have 875 confirmed cases, 10 confirmed recoveries and 8 deaths, as of yesterday (not sure whether the 875 includes those few we recently imported from neighbouring France, to lend them an ICU hand as hospitals there are struggling bad). You can opine as you wish about the UK figures of course, and hypothesize between confirmed and estimated case figures. But there's little point in drawing parallels between the UK, 65m people and...questionable...practices for testing, tracing and statistical releasing, and our tiny country of 600k people where everyone and their pet dog gets tested and history-tracked over the past 3 months for the lightest of coughs.
  7. Joe Public can (could) order anything up to full HAZMAT-grade coveralls, so the short answer is "it depends". I'd say right now, Joe Public would struggle to find any masks, to begin with. The recommended healthcare-grade one (nursing, not operating/ICU) is the 'N95' type. I saw a report today, that the German army procurement had ordered 6 million units, but the shipment then 'got lost at a Kenyan airport' A chinese client of mine offered last night to send us some PPE kit, including these N95 masks, for my colleagues and I. Snapped their hand off, as I have a couple colleagues living near the office, and shift-nipping in every day for basics (new post, faxes, any ad hoc maintenance).
  8. Of course, and logically they are those who don't answer to my definition of 'idiots', ie those who need to go out for work/meds/groceries Oh yeah, while I'm here: people, when you next visit your supermarket or corner store, don't forget to thank the shelf stackers, and your till operator, for their presence at work. By the smiles I can discern behind masks (not to mention the thanks), they appreciate it as much as your next NHS worker
  9. Anyone who believes this situation does not concern them, who does not need to be going out (for work/meds/supplies), but goes out irrespective. So, contrarian liberals, stubborn OAPs, dissipate youths, <etc>. You can take a look at these holidaygoers in Spain, for a representative sample. There'll be tons more of that calibre in the UK (and elsewhere too, lest I be accused of UK bashing again). 'Idiots' is quite charitable, tbh.
  10. We went on those measures at the same time and, from this morning's news, we may have broken the back of the infection's spread: yesterday was the 2nd day of decreasing new infections. (records start 01/03, 0 or 1 new case per day until 12/03 where it jumped to 19 new cases, then +12 on 13/03, +13 on 14/03, +26 on 15/03) 16/03: 4 new cases 17/03: 59 new cases 18/03: 63 new cases 19/03: 132 new cases 20/03: 149 new cases 21/03: 186 new cases 22/03: 128 new cases 23/03: 77 new cases then again, might be a false positive like 16/03 was. Today's stats by close of government business will be instructive.
  11. I believe the OP is right to draw attention to the executive power continent-grab under this draft bill. A crucial question (IMHO) is more, is this deliberate or, less ominously, well-meaning-but-ill-advised (-drafted, if you will) under time pressure? I guess social care provisioning and its chronic under-resourcing, likewise many further redundant aspects/measures of this bill, will quickly fall off everyone's radar, if the NHS (and mortuary services) eventually get so overwhelmed, that the army has to be brought in to dispose of the bodies... ...like it has in some places in Italy.
  12. Testimonies of NHS frontline staff on Twitter feeds are hard to beat. It doesn't get more expert and latest as that nor, once aggregated in the context of earlier testimonies of Italian, Spanish, French and German healthcare frontline staff, more objective. Because even if you apply a heavy "doubting Thomas" filter to this material (and so should everyone do), given the volume and history of it by now, you only need to see so many middle-aged men your (my-) own age, working as ICU doctors, in tears over the triaging decisions they're having to make day-in, day-out (and whose decisions do *not* apply *only* to OAPs with comorbidities ) and imploring people to self-isolate, to realise how serious this is. That's before you consider the further testimonies of some of these healthcare workers with families, infected through their service (never mind insufficient + inappropriate PPE equipment, as reported in some volume by NHS staff in the UK) and some of whom have since died, who dare not go back home after their first shift for fear of infecting their loved ones. And then I see photos of play parks filled with families and kids, and commuters stuffed into fewer trains in London, taken this morning Please help them help you and your loved ones: stay home.
  13. Paracetamol may get rationed before long, if people are currently panic-buying it. By now it is rationed most elsewhere on the Continent (France, Spain and Italy for sure, today I've heard Belgium may be too). There's plenty of manufacturing capacity, but the problem is leadtime and reduced distribution capacity (and extended delivery times, lots of ad hoc checkpoints on roads, m'ways and borders), once the stocks already in the retail/distribution channels begin to run dry. If people stayed sensible, really there'd be no need for rationing anything, officially or through public shaming.
  14. Can you tell me what "UK bashing" there is in that post you quoted?
  15. I'm sat watching Sky News live on Youtube and just saw Johnson's allocution about that closure. Aside from announcing pub and restaurant closures 'tonight', he'd struggle to be less clear, tbh. No timing or scheduling whatsoever. Unbelievable. Use your head, like most have on this side of the Channel It's not going to last for just two weeks (what most governments have announced over here: that's just slow-boiling/expectations management appoach, it's easier to tag on a week or two at a time after the initial two weeks, instead of kicking things off with a full month). It will be at least a month, based on the Chinese precedent. And probably longer (another 2 weeks to a month), based on the delay in locking down in Europe and the less regimented population there, and the increased infection rate resulting from these factors. You're 2 weeks behind the rest of Europe in locking down, with a population arguably still less regimented; so, longer still for the UK I'm afraid. Partially locking down only today, and Norwich hospital has just declared a critical incident due to the number of incoming Covid19 patients. That bolting horse? You can't even see it anymore
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