SnailyBoy   10 #7717 Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) So we should be able to change our minds now, bearing in mind what we know?  Edited December 20, 2018 by SnailyBoy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat   10 #7718 Posted December 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, apelike said: and sanctioned by parliament making the none-binding bit now a matter for the bin! As indeed is the original referendum itself.  Article 50 was enacted by an Act of Parliament in 2017 not the referendum in 2016. As such, it can also be revoked by an act of Parliament if it is seen to be too damaging to the UK and not supported by either the public or the majority of MPs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hobinfoot   25 #7719 Posted December 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Top Cats Hat said: As indeed is the original referendum itself.  Article 50 was enacted by an Act of Parliament in 2017 not the referendum in 2016. As such, it can also be revoked by an act of Parliament if it is seen to be too damaging to the UK and not supported by either the public or the majority of MPs. Article 50 was enacted by parliament after the referendum vote was won by the leave side. If the remain side had won then no enactment would have been necessary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat   10 #7720 Posted December 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, hobinfoot said: Article 50 was enacted by parliament after the referendum vote was won by the leave side. If the remain side had won then no enactment would have been necessary. No enactment was necessary at all, given that neither side could attract even 40% of the electorate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hobinfoot   25 #7721 Posted December 20, 2018 52% of those who voted chose leave. We will never have a 100% turn out so the majority of those who do vote win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
woodview   10 #7722 Posted December 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said: No enactment was necessary at all, given that neither side could attract even 40% of the electorate. So why stay if so few want to? Remaining is just as large a decision as leaving. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ANGELFIRE1 Â Â 10 #7723 Posted December 20, 2018 40 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said: Statements by those in power are just those statements. Â Nowhere in the legislation did it say anywhere, that the result would be anything other than advisory. " And remember : they cannot undo the decision we take. If we vote out, that's it. It is irreversible. We will leave Europe - for good." Â I rest my case. Â Angel1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SnailyBoy   10 #7724 Posted December 20, 2018 Just now, ANGELFIRE1 said: " And remember : they cannot undo the decision we take. If we vote out, that's it. It is irreversible. We will leave Europe - for good."  I rest my case.  Angel1. That's your case? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ANGELFIRE1 Â Â 10 #7725 Posted December 20, 2018 42 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said: Statements by those in power are just those statements. Â Nowhere in the legislation did it say anywhere, that the result would be anything other than advisory. Boy Dave had a different idea about the referendum. Â " And remember : they cannot undo the decision we take. If we vote out, that's it. It is irreversible. We will leave Europe - for good." Â Angel1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
woodview   10 #7726 Posted December 20, 2018 43 minutes ago, SnailyBoy said: Strange situation where the Eur Interesting opinion piece.  So who's really at fault for Italy's woes, the EU or the Italian Government?   It's interesting how we are often told in here that the eu has minimal powers and only enforces nice things like workers rights. Yet here we have a situation where the recently elected Italian governments new budget is subject to forcible eu amendment. Strange. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #7727 Posted December 20, 2018 Just now, ANGELFIRE1 said: Boy Dave had a different idea about the referendum.  " And remember : they cannot undo the decision we take. If we vote out, that's it. It is irreversible. We will leave Europe - for good."  Angel1. But he isn’t in charge anymore. We can change policy. He could have changed policy if he had wanted to and Parliament agreed. You’re clinging onto a sound bite from two years from yesterday’s man. It’s bonkers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SnailyBoy   10 #7728 Posted December 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, ANGELFIRE1 said: Boy Dave had a different idea about the referendum.  " And remember : they cannot undo the decision we take. If we vote out, that's it. It is irreversible. We will leave Europe - for good."  Angel1. You may as well say 'Brexit means Brexit'.  At least you'll be quoting the current PM.   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...