sheffbag Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 10 minutes ago, Planner1 said: The things that might improve could be: Branding - all the vehicles would have the same livery, the vehicles would be to an agreed standard, there would be a single source of timetable information. Ticketing- there would be a single ticketing structure Downsides would be that there’s a big financial risk. If the tenders for operating the routes come back more expensive than the authorities estimate, decisions have to be made on what can be cut or where the extra money is coming from. Politicians won’t be able to point to operators anymore, they will have to take responsibility. People on here with industry knowledge will tell you that the public ownership / operation of public transport led to poor standards of safety / vehicles / maintenance and deregulation was in part caused by this. Coppard is going to push franchising through regardless, especially when he gets another term early when the elcetion is brought forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organgrinder Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 26 minutes ago, sheffbag said: so you are now the mayor, what changes would you make That's a silly question. It's impossible to draw up a business plan without knowing the budget available, the powers you have, and without government, public & business consultation. What school of planning did you attend ? There's nothing wrong in pointing out that we had a transport system among the finest in the country and now, what we have is laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffbag Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 4 minutes ago, Organgrinder said: That's a silly question. It's impossible to draw up a business plan without knowing the budget available, the powers you have, and without government, public & business consultation. What school of planning did you attend ? There's nothing wrong in pointing out that we had a transport system among the finest in the country and now, what we have is laughable. no its not, give us a few headliners that you would like to see re-implemented from the "finest system" in the country Cost is not a factor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organgrinder Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Just now, sheffbag said: no its not, give us a few headliners that you would like to see re-implemented from the "finest system" in the country Cost is not a factor Now you are getting extra silly, bordering on stupid. Cost is ALWAYS a factor and I don't get paid the Mayor's salary to start doing his job for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 8 minutes ago, Organgrinder said: Now you are getting extra silly, bordering on stupid. Cost is ALWAYS a factor and I don't get paid the Mayor's salary to start doing his job for him. So let's set straight. You say improvements are needed but won't say what improvements need to be made in an ideal world, which is what is being asked of you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackey lad Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Just now, Resident said: So let's set straight. You say improvements are needed but won't say what improvements need to be made in an ideal world, which is what is being asked of you. Forget it . He’s just waffling again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffbag Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 16 minutes ago, Organgrinder said: Now you are getting extra silly, bordering on stupid. Cost is ALWAYS a factor and I don't get paid the Mayor's salary to start doing his job for him. ok THEN (since you love capitals and boldening of words). What would YOU say made the transport system previously one of the finest in the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheffieldForum Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 I always thought you were supposed to get answers by asking the Organ Grinder....? 1 Sheffield Forum | The Sheffield Guide | The Sheffield Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner1 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 35 minutes ago, sheffbag said: Coppard is going to push franchising through regardless, especially when he gets another term early when the elcetion is brought forward. He’s only doing what most of the other mayors are doing. It’s been on local / regional politicians wish list ever since deregulation in 1986, but the regulatory framework hasn’t really allowed it to happen until recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingJ Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Just now, Planner1 said: He’s only doing what most of the other mayors are doing. It’s been on local / regional politicians wish list ever since deregulation in 1986, but the regulatory framework hasn’t really allowed it to happen until recently. So long as it isn't used as a political 'football' - but we all know how good politicians are at running/maintaining a PSV operation - just look at TfL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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