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Frank Hester's Racist Comments About Diane Abbott
Organgrinder replied to Chekhov's topic in General Discussions
My bold: Your opinion seems to be different from everyone else's then because we are all debating whether he was Racist or not, rather than his intentions which is a ploy to exonerate him. What I was asking you is, do you think that Sunak is wrong when he he says that Hester's remarks were "racist and wrong". I have already told you that Hester HAS NOT apologised for making racist and misogynist remarks - he has simply apologised for making RUDE remarks - a big difference. It's not important to me whether Sunak is right or wrong. I had made my decision that Hester was being racist and misogynist, long before Sunak was forced to declare his view. -
Frank Hester's Racist Comments About Diane Abbott
Organgrinder replied to Chekhov's topic in General Discussions
The argument is NOT about whether Hester "intended" to be racist. It's about whether his remarks, WERE or WERE NOT racist. I take it that you don't agree with the official Tory view, as stated by Sunak, when he said that what Hester said was racist and wrong. As I said, it's hard to tie you down to a honest straight forward answer. I say that Sunak was right for once in his life and Hester was being racist. -
Frank Hester's Racist Comments About Diane Abbott
Organgrinder replied to Chekhov's topic in General Discussions
I'm don't mind at all that you have a different opinion but if yours is opposite to most, then it would seem to be the wrong one. -
Frank Hester's Racist Comments About Diane Abbott
Organgrinder replied to Chekhov's topic in General Discussions
But they cannot both be right so, Is the Tory party right, remembering that Sunak said that Hester was "racist and wrong" or Ms Swaine is right and the Tories are wrong. -
Frank Hester's Racist Comments About Diane Abbott
Organgrinder replied to Chekhov's topic in General Discussions
Why does the official Westminster view, including that of Sunak's, not coincide with yours then ? -
My bold: that's exactly what the papers said ( untruthfully ) and you have just admitted that Yes, you thought the same. Corbyn NEVER had terrorist sympathies but met them in an effort to get a peace dialogue, EXACTLY THE SAME AS TONY BLAIR DID WITH THE IRA IN NORTHERN IRELEND. It's just that you only believe the pares when they are kind to the Tories.. Best to forget the papers anyway and have a mind of your own.
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Very true - of course it works that way, and that is exactly what I have already said in my post - and I quote "You can carry on in your happy bubble, not carrying or using cash and others can do the opposite - that kind of thing leads to a contented world". I don't mind at all what you do, so why should you mind about me and other cash users ? You just don't need to "get it". just carry on doing what makes you happy.
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Frank Hester's Racist Comments About Diane Abbott
Organgrinder replied to Chekhov's topic in General Discussions
Of course he has - he's mentioned her colour and her sex. He could have just said that he doesn't like her personally but he went further than that. Whether you agree or not is immaterial because the majority of people obviously don't agree with you. -
Everyone on the forum knows your thoughts of Corbyn and of the Labour party as a whole. Strange that you used to agree with the newspapers until It was the Tories under fire. The papers know it, the people know it, and only people with their heads in the sand, fail to see that the Tories are finished, no matter when he holds the election. That's simply because things need to get better and for 14 years, they've been getting worse instead.
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You were quite happy to go along with them when they were calling Corbyn. Just another indication that you can be, and are, as biased as everybody else who's rooting for their own side.
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On Sunday Morning with Trevor Philips on Sky News, they seem to think it makes no difference because he's done for whatever he chooses.
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That would work fine if things were going to get better but they are not, and every political commentator seems to agree on that.
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So they should, and some people spend more time than that sat in the boozer thinking they are being useful.