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  1. You dont read your own posts or peoples replies much do you? (sorry, but if you want to be sarcastic then at least get it right) You stated HGV specifically, I challenged you on that so you provide evidence of a car being used in London on a bridge in an actual attack plus a foiled plot that could potentially have used a truck . You were using this an a reasoning for the blocks to be there in the first place. There have been high profile cases involving HGV's i grant you (Nice, Berlin, Linburg) but that is 3 in the last 8 years across the whole of Europe. If we were to use your example of using a car as an actual case to substantiate your point then we better stop trucks, buses and cars on the edge of park square roundabout to prevent them going up the ring road to prevent the miniscule chance that they may plough into the 02 Academy during a concert or the Lyceum or a taxi filled with explosives jumps the lanes and crashes into the cathedral. Ridiculous examples maybe just about as likely as a rogue HGV running up Fargate so where do you stop. If these people wish to take a vehicle to injure others then they will find a way to do it somewhere. I could ride a motorbike straight through the middle of sheffield city centre running people over or shooting them. Those blocks wouldnt stop me Anyway back to buses...................
  2. My bold, what a loss of your argument there. exactly where elsewhere has this happened (manchester in the 90's?) in the UK where a HGV has been used in a city centre to attack people.? You are more likely to be killed by lightening than killed by a HGV being used as a terrorist. If that is the justification for the bollards then its weak. Nothing stopping a driver hitting the city centre near the market or just coming off at top of the moor would it stop you coming into town if the blocks werent there? Do you not feel secure outside the cathedral but you are ok on fargate?
  3. Anna - to quote Frozen - Let it go. He's back in his rightful place on the backbench telling people to protest while watching re-runs of Citizen Smith on Forces TV.
  4. Wait until the Mayoral authority takes over the PTE.......
  5. https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/content/dam/sheffield/campaigns/governance-referendum/Proposed governance systems information.pdf Where are you basing your view on Anna that it is percentage votes. The models indicate that "All 84 of Sheffield's councillors (known as Full Council) elect a Leader, but decision making authority continues to rest with Full Council, which will delegate most decision making to groups of councillors drawn from all of the political parties on the council (committees). Full Council makes appointments to these committees. Each committee is politically proportionate – this means that the largest party on the Full Council will have the most councillors in each committee." (source https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/home/campaigns/scc-governance-referendum) The committees will still be made up of the elected councillors and will still be majority of the majority (Labour) party. I cant see anything based on percentage votes. If Labour have a majority of councillors then it will have a majority of councillors on each committee if im reading right
  6. Anna - A was the clap for carers which 1980's girl was saying was the same as the Bristol demonstrations. That received a lot of media coverage constantly during the time it was taking place.
  7. No, Sheffbag is amongst those who for the last year has abided by the rules, not seen relatives, missed holding loved ones, seen friends have to cancel their weddings, tried to support people who have lost their partners to Covid but cant go to see them. Sheffbag is amongst those who took the advice and stayed socially distanced and within their bubble when required. Sheffbag did support the NHS by clapping outside their house, socially distant away from others and respecting the rules. A bit like the people on here what Sheffbag DIDNT do was to meet up with a large group of other people intent on causing trouble disregarding the rules in place and trying to disrupt society and draining police resources after been told not meet up. a bit like these people here For you to try and put the two of them together and say they are both the same is incredible. You want to know why people have different attitudes to the 2 things? how about this A is peaceful A is observing the rules with regard to socially distancing from people outside your bubble A is supporting people who are trying to save others from dying B is a mob of people meeting up close together, many without masks stood side by side B is draining public resources both with police time and the NHS time required to treat injuries caused by the "protesters" B is destroying properties including buildings and vehicles. I'll let you figure out which is which
  8. disagree, a significant number of people feel that the "protesters" are wrong becuase they shouldnt be meeting in mass numbers anywhere at present under the current guidelines. What makes it right for them to all meet up when for the last year I cant go visit my parents indoors My children cant go indoors with their partners In building education has not been allowed in classes/colleges/universities for many pupils I cant go to an outdoor sports event I cant watch my son play sport in a completely segregated indoor environment. I cant work in my job because, even though it is more strictly controlled for covid spreading than ANY shop that is currently open I cant meet with friends in a park So what gives these people the right to all meet up together, many without masks, regardless of the potential additional risk of spreading Covid when its against the rules? Shall we all just go to the pub and disregard those rules? Shall we storm the nursing homes just so we can see our loved ones? Shall we refuse to wear masks everywhere in shops? Shall we all meet up for a party at Weston Park near the bandstand? Your example of people coming to the doorsteps of their own houses, in their own bubbles, to applaud for 1 minute once a week is nowhere near valid. The fact that you try to use this only devalues your argument. These people came out to show support for the people who are trying to stop others dying and did it within the rules and in a safe environment. The "protesters" just rabbled together, some with the deliberate intent to cause trouble. Hardly the same as banging a pan outside your door isn't it?
  9. I think you are missing the point of my post. Its not where the MP lives that is the question. If PR was used at the previous election then who decides who gets which seat. The party who wins the most votes may not be the representative party for that area due to votes elsewhere. Therefore how do those people fully represent the wishes of the people who didn't elect them? Thats the point im making, its nothing to do with who lives where or who is married to who. Its about the fact that PR would result in parties not representing the areas where they are favoured so my question to Anna was how was that fair and how would it work as usual, didnt answer any of the questions at all. What does any of that have to do with how PR would work in the UK or any of the questions i asked? Since you said "5 years does nothing for long term planning" how long should a government have in power before the vote goes back to the public in your opinion? What does AI have to do with an election system?
  10. with respect , that has nothing to do with the point. Councillors are not MPs and do not make national decisions. However, a councillor will be the person that the people in your area voted for in an election and therefore are the chosen representative for the (normally) politcal affiliation of the area. Under PR this may not be the case, that is the point im making
  11. now how did i know you would suggest that so... 2019 GE result by proportional rep. Based on the 30848002 votes cast for the parties that won seats this equates to 47458 votes per seat this gives the following results Conservative - 13,941,086 - 293 seats (364 in GE) Labour - 10, 292,354 - 216 (203) Lib Dem - 3,675,342 - 77 (11) SNP - 1,242,380 - 26 (48) Green - 864,743 - 18 (1) DUP - 244,127 - 5 (8) SF - 181,853 - 4 (7) PC - 153,265 - 3 (4) Alliance - 134,115 - 3 (1) SDIP - 118,737 - 2 (2) So we get a non majority parliament , even in 1997 when Labour won 418 seats and the Conservatives and Lib dem got 211 between them then PR would have resulted in a hung parliament as Labour only got 43% of the vote . since 1900 there has only been 2 times when there has been a majority vote for any party at any GE. The only times there were was in the 30's both had majorities for the National party. The only real winners are the Lib Dem but the questions are I vote for my member of parliament, if that person under PR wins the most votes in my area but isn't represented in parliament (such as any of the 71 seats the conservatives would lose under PR)why should I be represented by a person who doesn't represent the wishes and votes of my constituency. If the PR vote is just a straight vote for the party and then they will pick the MP to represent you then who chooses the MP and which areas do those MPs go to based on splitting the constituencies up. For example, Who gets the seats that the tories lose in order to bring the lib dem count up? If i am in Scotland and voted SNP then 22 MPs to represent me have just been lost and always will be due to the number of votes available in Scotland (and Wales/Ireland) in comparison to england. Who represents the voters for these areas in parliament? PR essentially dismisses local politics and becomes a national vote with no assurance that the person selected will represent the area you are from correctly (would you put a Labour MP in the middle of the Tory heartland or Scotland?) It dismisses the smaller constituencies in favour of ones with larger voting capability. A potential vote cast in Orkney (electorate 34211) is worth one third of a potential vote cast in the Isle of Wight (electorate 113021). source https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8749/ Both are islands and at present both woudl have an MP based on the decision of the people who live there and woudl support the people who live there. PR woudl mean that 74442 people who did vote in IOW would have a 75% influence over the 23160 who voted in Orkney. How is that fair to the people of Orkney? So how is this better than voting for a person to represent your area in parliament and then finding out that you get someone else because more people turned out in a different constituency?
  12. Ive got an idea. Lets split the country up into regions and regularly give every adult the opportunity to vote for whoever they want to represent their area. Its up to the adults then to vote and the people who win the most of these regions wins. Or for one off votes, such as, say a referendum, we give everyone the vote and group them all together and the one with the most, wins Sounds fairly fair to me, what's your alternative?
  13. The contract includes the clause in it. They will have written to you informing you of the new payment. You then have the option to break your contract if not happy. If you have recently taken the contract out it was likely you were told of the proposed rises when you spoke to them.
  14. They've been dead for 50 years. Only time the public accepted them was when Blair was in charge and the labour faithful on here discount him as "not Labour"
  15. They've formed more governments than old labour have in the last 50 years
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