Beggars, homeless, street drinkers & drug users in Sheffield!

[wearysmith]

There's plenty of empty factories or never-used office blocks here in our city. I used to think it was a perfect solution; people need shelter for the night, open the doors and let 'em in. That, to my knowledge, has ever been done here. I wonder why. But then, can the scammers make a living if they're undercover, safe and out of sight? We're always back to the 'who is genuine, who is fake' conundrum.

[alchresearch]

11 hours ago, Longcol said:

Maybe because of the wide publicity given to stories like this?

 

https://metro.co.uk/2019/03/25/cop-gave-homeless-man-poop-sandwich-set-keep-job-9014406/

And this:

 

Lonely homeless man who 'just wanted a hug' has sleeping bag set on fire

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/homeless-man-who-just-wanted-17688632

[Robin-H]

1 hour ago, wearysmith said:

There's plenty of empty factories or never-used office blocks here in our city. I used to think it was a perfect solution; people need shelter for the night, open the doors and let 'em in. That, to my knowledge, has ever been done here. I wonder why. But then, can the scammers make a living if they're undercover, safe and out of sight? We're always back to the 'who is genuine, who is fake' conundrum.

I think there are obvious reasons why that isn't done... 

[Bargepole23]

4 hours ago, wearysmith said:

There's plenty of empty factories or never-used office blocks here in our city. I used to think it was a perfect solution; people need shelter for the night, open the doors and let 'em in. That, to my knowledge, has ever been done here. I wonder why. But then, can the scammers make a living if they're undercover, safe and out of sight? We're always back to the 'who is genuine, who is fake' conundrum.

Takes about 3 seconds of wondering why? Because they are owned by somebody/some company.

 

I imagine your settee isn't used at night....open the doors and let em in.

[Mattcheese]

People might judge by individual experiences.....but it's far better to judge by the facts. 

 

All of which are available here: https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/live-tables-on-homelessness#rough-sleeping-tables

 

At last count there are 26 people in the entirety of Sheffield who are rough sleeping. 

 

There are so many beggars in Sheffield because there is a huge drugs problem - NOT a homeless problem. If you give money, you give it virtually directly to drug dealers, and continue these individuals decline into addiction. 

 

The facts are all out there - but people like ignoring them to favour their own worldview. It's not nice to think that all those beggars are at the mercy of vicious drug dealers...but they are. Watch one of the beggars next time you see them. You can usually see their dealers loitering nearby, or come past every so often to pick up money and drop off drugs. 

 

If you give money, you're the reason this is happening. There really isn't any other debate other than that. 

 

 

[Halibut]

4 hours ago, Mattcheese said:

 

 

If you give money, you're the reason this is happening. There really isn't any other debate other than that. 

 

 

No. The real reason there are drug addicts is childhood trauma. You're wrong.

 

[kidley]

3 hours ago, Halibut said:

No. The real reason there are drug addicts is childhood trauma. You're wrong.

 

What will you come out with next  "a load of scollups"

[redruby]

2 hours ago, Halibut said:

No. The real reason there are drug addicts is childhood trauma. You're wrong.

 

But the reason they are on the street begging is because misguided folk think they are helping the homeless, not giving money to drug addicts with chaotic lifestyles stuck in vicious circle of begging and addiction made all the harder to break by people giving them money.  The only people benefiting are the drug Dealers.

[Halibut]

10 hours ago, kidley said:

What will you come out with next  "a load of scollups"

Do some research. Your average heroin addict has had a simply awful childhood; family breakup, poverty, sexual/physical abuse, the full works.

[wearysmith]

18 hours ago, Mattcheese said:

People might judge by individual experiences.....but it's far better to judge by the facts. 

 

All of which are available here: https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/live-tables-on-homelessness#rough-sleeping-tables

 

At last count there are 26 people in the entirety of Sheffield who are rough sleeping. 

 

There are so many beggars in Sheffield because there is a huge drugs problem - NOT a homeless problem. If you give money, you give it virtually directly to drug dealers, and continue these individuals decline into addiction. 

 

The facts are all out there - but people like ignoring them to favour their own worldview. It's not nice to think that all those beggars are at the mercy of vicious drug dealers...but they are. Watch one of the beggars next time you see them. You can usually see their dealers loitering nearby, or come past every so often to pick up money and drop off drugs. 

 

If you give money, you're the reason this is happening. There really isn't any other debate other than that. 

 

 

Like your response. Common sense spoken. I totally agree with you. Do not give them money people. Clothes, food, a coffee, yes. Money - no. Don't feed their habit.