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  1. Having looked though the report, I believe the figures come from an analysis of the ONS Living Costs & Food Survey. That is conducted over the whole of the UK, and is the most significant survey of spending in the UK.
  2. I think the point the article was making was less about older people going out and spending more (although I'm sure that's part of it) but more about the additional health benefits that older people get by going out and about, and the extra volunteering and unpaid care work that they are able to do that they might not otherwise. I would imagine these benefits (especially regarding health) are greater for poorer pensions that would be less likely to be out and about otherwise. I've not looked into the research to see how the actual figures were worked out.
  3. What part of the research do you not agree with, and why do you think they came to the wrong conclusions? Were their research methods flawed in some way?
  4. Free bus passes for older people help generate money for the economy as it means they are more likely to get out and spend. It also increases volunteering and reduces costs associated with poorer health. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/sep/09/scrapping-free-bus-travel-older-people-cost
  5. They probably did. I'm not sure how that underlined any point.
  6. Fewer than 1000 people searched 'What is the EU?'. They could well have been children. I don't think you can use that as evidence of anything.. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/06/27/were-brits-really-googling-what-is-the-eu-after-voting-to-leave/
  7. I honestly have no idea what point you're making. Wanting fairness in the way people are treated is totalitarian...? right...
  8. I have no idea how you've managed to extrapolate that from my posts. I think that takes slippery slope to the extreme! WiseOwl has managed to correctly deduce my point. I'm not commenting on what the punishment is (but if you care to read my posts you'll see I said I don't think there should be a punishment) - I was commenting on the current unfair inequality in the consequences.
  9. Well that’s up to them. I don’t see why that’s the BBC’s problem. I tend to think pensioners have a bit more sense..
  10. So they’re happy to pay thousands of pounds in council tax unnecessarily, but paying an extra £150 in the tv licence will push them into penury? Strange.. It’s not a case of being mean spirited. It’s the case of what is affordable.
  11. Poor pensioners should be on pension credit. They’ll get the licence for free.
  12. I think it’s ridiculous for people over 75 to get free food and free petrol. I also think it’s a ridiculous argument that elderly people should get a free tv licence just because they may have paid for it for 50 years. If that’s argument, why should they pay council tax?
  13. No I wasn’t. I was making the point that it is unfair that the consequences in those cases are different. I’m not sure how that is totalitarian.
  14. I can understand why you wouldn't want to try and explain the difference in a logical way - I fear you might struggle. So presumably you think elderly people don't pay council tax? They've paid it for years after all, and it's a tax, which is your argument. Unfortunately for your argument, they do. They can get council tax paid if they receive pension credit, just like they will for the licence fee.
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