Bus driver threatens to kick chavs of for playing music on their phones

[04jessops 10]

sound like the voice of experience speaking, you been getting close in the bus shelter:hihi:

 

Judging from his original post about BO, you wouldn't need to get close, if you know what I mean...

[MissChatter 10]

The problem is there are notices about playing loud music etc on buses and trams but the posters are a4 size so really not many get to read them, the other problem is there is no consistancy, all bus drivers and tram conductors should tell people to turn music off if on phones or down if on ipods etc an very loud, because they dont do this, this is one driver who has had the guts to tell a minor to turn his music off, the rest of the drivers etc are just to bloody scared, in case of the reprocussions.

[crookesey 640]

Bring in 'Chav Netting', then lock them in a room with the theme tune from 'The Archers' playing constantly at full blast for hours, that should sort the little buggers out.

[Shazbat 10]

There's no need for hitting anyone. The bus driver could have opened the doors and thrown the chavs off.

 

If he was feeling really generous, he could have slowed down first!

 

there should be some sort of scrambler that cuts them off as you get on the bus

[Runningboard 10]

The problem is there are notices about playing loud music etc on buses and trams but the posters are a4 size so really not many get to read them, the other problem is there is no consistancy, all bus drivers and tram conductors should tell people to turn music off if on phones or down if on ipods etc an very loud, because they dont do this, this is one driver who has had the guts to tell a minor to turn his music off, the rest of the drivers etc are just to bloody scared, in case of the reprocussions.

 

Repercussions? Think of it this way. If it was your child that got thrown of the bus and the child was hurt in some way who would you blame?

 

Any bus company would lay blame at the driver as the alleged drivers are suitably qualified to under take the job. There for "the drivers etc are just to bloody scared, in case of repercussions" is un-true. For those who know the job and the repercussions stay within the law where vulnerable individuals are concerned.

[Dozy 11]

Repercussions? Think of it this way. If it was your child that got thrown of the bus and the child was hurt in some way who would you blame?

 

Any bus company would lay blame at the driver as the alleged drivers are suitably qualified to under take the job. There for "the drivers etc are just to bloody scared, in case of repercussions" is un-true. For those who know the job and the repercussions stay within the law where vulnerable individuals are concerned.

My bold

 

I'd blame the child for behaving in such a way that s/he was thrown off the bus. And also the parents, for not teaching the child consideration and respect for other people.

[mjmoore0 10]

I was merely pointing out that this behaviour is illegal under the road traffic act. So therefore any of our little darling who play "music" on buses are actually breaking the law. Our well brought up kids would therefore never dream of doing it would they. There is no miss-quoting here so no need to be upset.

Sorry for confusing the issue by returning to the main point of the thread.

 

Utter claptrap.

 

This behaviour is not illegal under the road traffic act as Moosey queried. If you are going to state that this or that is illegal then at least use the right law.

 

The behaviour in question is in contravention of The Public Service Vehicles (Conduct of Drivers, Inspectors, Conductors and Passengers) 1990 [as amended 1995 and 2002].

 

To quote the relevant sub-section:

 

No passenger shall play or operate any musical instrument or sound reproducing equipment to the annoyance of any person or in a manner likely to cause annoyance to any person on the vehicle.

 

It also goes further to state that:

 

Any passenger contravening these Regulations shall give his name and address to the

driver/conductor/inspector on demand, and may be removed from the vehicle by the

driver/conductor/inspector or a police constable.

(Note: the maximum penalty, upon conviction, for contravention of the above Regulations

is, at August 1990, a fine of £200).

 

Therefore legally a driver does have the powers to remove a passenger from the vehicle - although whether this would be good PR for the driver's company would remain to be seen.

[jibbs1977 10]

Utter claptrap.

 

This behaviour is not illegal under the road traffic act as Moosey queried. If you are going to state that this or that is illegal then at least use the right law.

 

The behaviour in question is in contravention of The Public Service Vehicles (Conduct of Drivers, Inspectors, Conductors and Passengers) 1990 [as amended 1995 and 2002].

 

To quote the relevant sub-section:

 

No passenger shall play or operate any musical instrument or sound reproducing equipment to the annoyance of any person or in a manner likely to cause annoyance to any person on the vehicle.

 

It also goes further to state that:

 

Any passenger contravening these Regulations shall give his name and address to the

driver/conductor/inspector on demand, and may be removed from the vehicle by the

driver/conductor/inspector or a police constable.

(Note: the maximum penalty, upon conviction, for contravention of the above Regulations

is, at August 1990, a fine of £200).

 

Therefore legally a driver does have the powers to remove a passenger from the vehicle - although whether this would be good PR for the driver's company would remain to be seen.

 

 

 

 

It is agains the law to play music of any kind in public places you need a PPL License. Just read on.....Music can be a used to entertain and soothe passengers on all kinds of transport. It can also be used to create a better environment aboard buses, trains, ships, cruise liners and planes, as well as in airports, bus and train stations, where customers start and end their journeys.

 

Whether you are playing the radio, CDs or using a more specialist music service provided by a PPL licensed supplier, you are required by law to have a PPL licence for playing music in public.

 

Below you will find listed the most common ways in which music is used in public vehicles/transport and the details of how much it costs. If any further information is required please contact us on 020 7534 1000.

[mjmoore0 10]

It is agains the law to play music of any kind in public places you need a PPL License. Just read on.....Music can be a used to entertain and soothe passengers on all kinds of transport. It can also be used to create a better environment aboard buses, trains, ships, cruise liners and planes, as well as in airports, bus and train stations, where customers start and end their journeys.

 

Whether you are playing the radio, CDs or using a more specialist music service provided by a PPL licensed supplier, you are required by law to have a PPL licence for playing music in public.

 

Below you will find listed the most common ways in which music is used in public vehicles/transport and the details of how much it costs. If any further information is required please contact us on 020 7534 1000.

 

If you re-read my post you will see that I put:

 

This behaviour is not illegal under the road traffic act as Moosey queried. If you are going to state that this or that is illegal then at least use the right law.

 

The behaviour in question is in contravention of The Public Service Vehicles (Conduct of Drivers, Inspectors, Conductors and Passengers) 1990 [as amended 1995 and 2002].

 

The last time I looked the use of 'contravention' in this context means illegal, or against the law.

 

I wasn't trying to point out that the playing of music on a public service vehicle was not illegal, I was trying to make the point that the law quoted, with some apparent authority by the original poster, was not actually the correct law - as had been questioned initially by Moosey.

 

Amusingly you have fell into the same trap as the previous poster by misquoting law.

 

It is not law that you require a PPL licence to broadcast music, you must have the permission of the copyright holder under The Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988.

 

Many copyright holders transfer their rights to PPL which is an organisation which sells on licences to broadcast the music of the copyright holders for a fee, but if you obtain the permission of the copyright holders then you would not require a PPL.

 

Likewise if I decided to write and sing a fantastic new song that's going to storm the charts next weeks by selling three CDs and I go and I play my new CD on a bus then I am not in breach of The Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, nor do I require a PPL licence as I am the owner of the copyright.

 

But..... I would be in breach of The Public Service Vehicles (Conduct of Drivers, Inspectors, Conductors and Passengers) 1990 as my last post outlined.

 

Call me a pedant if you like, but if you are going to quote law or correct someone then at least be right.

 

Ta ra!

[Yakubu 10]

If you re-read my post you will see that I put:

 

This behaviour is not illegal under the road traffic act as Moosey queried. If you are going to state that this or that is illegal then at least use the right law.

 

The behaviour in question is in contravention of The Public Service Vehicles (Conduct of Drivers, Inspectors, Conductors and Passengers) 1990 [as amended 1995 and 2002].

 

The last time I looked the use of 'contravention' in this context means illegal, or against the law.

 

I wasn't trying to point out that the playing of music on a public service vehicle was not illegal, I was trying to make the point that the law quoted, with some apparent authority by the original poster, was not actually the correct law - as had been questioned initially by Moosey.

 

Amusingly you have fell into the same trap as the previous poster by misquoting law.

 

It is not law that you require a PPL licence to broadcast music, you must have the permission of the copyright holder under The Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988.

 

Many copyright holders transfer their rights to PPL which is an organisation which sells on licences to broadcast the music of the copyright holders for a fee, but if you obtain the permission of the copyright holders then you would not require a PPL.

 

Likewise if I decided to write and sing a fantastic new song that's going to storm the charts next weeks by selling three CDs and I go and I play my new CD on a bus then I am not in breach of The Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, nor do I require a PPL licence as I am the owner of the copyright.

 

But..... I would be in breach of The Public Service Vehicles (Conduct of Drivers, Inspectors, Conductors and Passengers) 1990 as my last post outlined.

 

Call me a pedant if you like, but if you are going to quote law or correct someone then at least be right.

 

Ta ra!

 

Yer wrong.

[loading 10]

I do agree with you wobblywill and yes I have felt very tempted to do things but I know the results of what can happen I Have never hit my child and would never do so,wether they have respect ot not ,as the law stands you can`t hit a child (minor) now if that bus driver was to actually hit him he would have ended up in court and lost his job .....in the end is the child thats done that worth it

 

Maybe you should start!!! Your whats wrong with the country today. This namby pamby crap does my head in.

[mjmoore0 10]

Yer wrong.

 

How's that then?