BigAl1 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 We all know that bus services in Sheffield are a complete mess but could anyone please explain to me why when a service is sometimes run by Stagecoach and sometimes by First that they are allowed to produce timetables only showing their own services. Can Stagecoach and First not appreciate that customers want to know the bus times for (say) route 86 and could not care who runs the bus. Indeed anyone unfamiliar with the service might not even know there are two operators and assume that there are no service when in fact there is. I know the PTE publish the full service but anyone doing an internet search could end up with either the Stagecoach or the First bus and an incomplete time table . I searched for the 86 route today for bus times today got the Stagecoach timetable and there is no mention of a sunday service. It is time the bus companies put the customer first and if they jointly operate a route show all services for the route 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingJ Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 (edited) I kind of see where you are coming from, but, and might just be me, a quick google lists both operators, one under the other in the search results. Easy enough to click both? Edited February 11 by RollingJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkieontheTyne Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 26 minutes ago, BigAl1 said: We all know that bus services in Sheffield are a complete mess but could anyone please explain to me why when a service is sometimes run by Stagecoach and sometimes by First that they are allowed to produce timetables only showing their own services. Can Stagecoach and First not appreciate that customers want to know the bus times for (say) route 86 and could not care who runs the bus. Indeed anyone unfamiliar with the service might not even know there are two operators and assume that there are no service when in fact there is. I know the PTE publish the full service but anyone doing an internet search could end up with either the Stagecoach or the First bus and an incomplete time table . I searched for the 86 route today for bus times today got the Stagecoach timetable and there is no mention of a sunday service. It is time the bus companies put the customer first and if they jointly operate a route show all services for the route I get where you’re coming from here, but it’d be like Tesco publishing details of Asda prices and offers. Unfortunately for you the companies are in competition with each other. As I’ve said before this all goes back to de regulation of bus services in 1986 when everything was “privatised”, thanks to thatcher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ01 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 hour ago, BigAl1 said: We all know that bus services in Sheffield are a complete mess but could anyone please explain to me why when a service is sometimes run by Stagecoach and sometimes by First that they are allowed to produce timetables only showing their own services. Can Stagecoach and First not appreciate that customers want to know the bus times for (say) route 86 and could not care who runs the bus. Indeed anyone unfamiliar with the service might not even know there are two operators and assume that there are no service when in fact there is. I know the PTE publish the full service but anyone doing an internet search could end up with either the Stagecoach or the First bus and an incomplete time table . I searched for the 86 route today for bus times today got the Stagecoach timetable and there is no mention of a sunday service. It is time the bus companies put the customer first and if they jointly operate a route show all services for the route https://www.travelsouthyorkshire.com/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irene Swaine Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 bustimes.org Is a great resource for timetables and live tracking of any bus in Britain. You can type in your destination, origin or bus operator and route and you will find timetables and calling points. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogets Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 3 hours ago, YorkieontheTyne said: I get where you’re coming from here, but it’d be like Tesco publishing details of Asda prices and offers. Unfortunately for you the companies are in competition with each other. As I’ve said before this all goes back to de regulation of bus services in 1986 when everything was “privatised”, thanks to thatcher. But with privatisation comes competition. Take the trains for example, do we want to go back to the days of British Rail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_the_m Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 8 minutes ago, rogets said: Take the trains for example, do we want to go back to the days of British Rail? Yes please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkieontheTyne Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 21 minutes ago, rogets said: But with privatisation comes competition. Take the trains for example, do we want to go back to the days of British Rail? Your unnecessary reply confirms my post. It’s competition that has caused BigAI1’s problem, one private company not publicising another private company’s operations. As regards your irrelevant question regarding British Rail, it was a publicly funded integrated network that operated reliably most of the time for the benefit of passengers, not fat cat shareholders who have no interest in transport systems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saywhatnow Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 On the First bus app you can choose to see all buses that stop at a particular stop or choose to see First only 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 3 hours ago, MJ01 said: https://www.travelsouthyorkshire.com/ I find the SYCMA (ne SYPTE) website very poor. It was fairly useless last week, in covering the snow chaos, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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