Penistone999   10 #4729 Posted October 22, 2018 The negotiations should have been done by professionals who know how to drive a hard bargain, not some wishy washy grey woman who has spent her entire life sitting on the fence and keeping her head down. The EU has been contemptuous of her from the start. She has succeeded only in enhancing their arrogance.  The mistake we made was making a Remainer prime minister when Cameron quit. It should have been a hardline Brexiteer . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
andyofborg   11 #4730 Posted October 22, 2018 The DUP are standing up for their principles.  Kate Hoey a person who knows much more about Ireland than you do, stood up in Parliament today and said the whole Irish border situation is a nonsense. She said Northern Ireland don't want an Hard Border, The Republic of Ireland don't want an hard Border and the EU don't want an harder border and the UK Government don't want an hard border. Whatever the outcome of Brexit negotiations will not bring back an hard border.  how do you know kate hoey knows more about ireland than some of us here do? the current northern ireland secretary of state has admitted she knew very little and, it would appear far less than many here about ireland.  while it's quite correct that no one wants a hard border, decisions have consequences, some of them unintended. Some of the other decisions regarding our future relationship with the EU would seem to make a hard border of one form or another more likely.  of course, the fact that there is a border at all is a result of decisions taken 90odd years ago by the uk parliament. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Penistone999 Â Â 10 #4731 Posted October 22, 2018 I agree, but those who want no deal (or a completely unrealistic deal) at present have the upper hand in the Conservative Party and are hamstringing Mrs May from getting a deal (albeit a vey poor one!) Â And so they should. LEAVE MEANS LEAVE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
andyofborg   11 #4732 Posted October 22, 2018 The mistake we made was making a Remainer prime minister when Cameron quit. It should have been a hardline Brexiteer .  why?  a number of them had the opportunity to stand for leader and they all bottled it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Lockdoctor   10 #4733 Posted October 22, 2018 how do you know kate hoey knows more about ireland than some of us here do? the current northern ireland secretary of state has admitted she knew very little and, it would appear far less than many here about ireland. while it's quite correct that no one wants a hard border, decisions have consequences, some of them unintended. Some of the other decisions regarding our future relationship with the EU would seem to make a hard border of one form or another more likely.  of course, the fact that there is a border at all is a result of decisions taken 90odd years ago by the uk parliament. Do know anything about Kate Hoey? Do know where she was born and brought up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
andyofborg   11 #4734 Posted October 22, 2018 Do know anything about Kate Hoey? Do know where she was born and brought up?  but she hasn't lived there for many years  the world, and some parts of the island if ireland moves on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat   10 #4735 Posted October 22, 2018  Do know anything about Kate Hoey? Do know where she was born and brought up?  Kate Hoey is an Ulster unionist who supports fox hunting.  On the border question she comes from the same place as the DUP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Lockdoctor   10 #4736 Posted October 22, 2018 Kate Hoey is an Ulster unionist who supports fox hunting. On the border question she comes from the same place as the DUP. So you agree with me that Kate Hoey Labour MP, knows more about Ireland than Sheffield Forum Members do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The Joker   10 #4737 Posted October 22, 2018 The mistake we made was making a Remainer prime minister when Cameron quit. It should have been a hardline Brexiteer .  Hiya Penny, you alright flower  The Evil Tories should've made David Davies PM instead of Cameron then!  Davies is a working class lad from a single-parent family who grew up on a council estate, pulled himself up the ladder through hard work and effort, and is a bit partial to the death penalty. You'd love him.  Unfortunately, since Davies wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth, the Evil Tories were never gonna make him PM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat   10 #4738 Posted October 22, 2018  So you agree with me that Kate Hoey Labour MP, knows more about Ireland than Sheffield Forum Members do.  She knows more than some and less than others.  The point is that she is a staunch Ulster unionist so her views on Brexit are aligned with the DUP and as such, should be taken with a large pinch of salt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
woodview   10 #4739 Posted October 22, 2018 It's the budget on Monday, so we need to brace ourselves, as this one probably will be the Remainers sweatheart, George Osbornes, forwarned one with the bloodcurdling tax rises and health cuts. Possibly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
andyofborg   11 #4740 Posted October 22, 2018 It's the budget on Monday, so we need to brace ourselves, as this one probably will be the Remainers sweatheart, George Osbornes, forwarned one with the bloodcurdling tax rises and health cuts. Possibly.  today's monday, so what happened? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...