El Cid Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 The majority of Labour Party members want a second vote. On channel 4 news right now. I am happy to leave, but see the logic of another referendum, but there does seem to be more support for another vote. What the vote would be is unclear. Another vote - leave or stay. Another vote - no deal, soft Brexit, stay in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litotes Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I think the 3rd option would be the one which provides the clearest outcome. Either people are happy with what is being proposed by the Government, or they aren't but still want to leave. Or they don't want to leave... This is assuming that the government can come up with a clear proposal which is acceptable to all parties and therefore could actually be tabled - which is a tad optimistic at the moment, given they have had 2 years to come up with such a plan and aren't event beginning to articulate something acceptable to the EU and the the UK population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I think the 3rd option would be the one which provides the clearest outcome. Either people are happy with what is being proposed by the Government, or they aren't but still want to leave. Or they don't want to leave... This is assuming that the government can come up with a clear proposal which is acceptable to all parties and therefore could actually be tabled - which is a tad optimistic at the moment, given they have had 2 years to come up with such a plan and aren't event beginning to articulate something acceptable to the EU and the the UK population. Theresa May couldn't find her arse with both hands and a map clearly labelled MAP FOR MY ARSE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 This is assuming that the government can come up with a clear proposal which is acceptable to all parties and therefore could actually be tabled - which is a tad optimistic at the moment, given they have had 2 years to come up with such a plan and aren't event beginning to articulate something acceptable to the EU and the the UK population. We can only have the terms that are agreed by the other 27 EU nations, what May wants is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdoctor Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I am happy to leave, but see the logic of another referendum, but there does seem to be more support for another vote. What the vote would be is unclear. Another vote - leave or stay. Another vote - no deal, soft Brexit, stay in. I think the 3rd option would be the one which provides the clearest outcome. Either people are happy with what is being proposed by the Government, or they aren't but still want to leave. Or they don't want to leave... In your hypothetical three choice referendums, what happens if the choice which receives the most votes fails to reach an absolute majority? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litotes Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 We can only have the terms that are agreed by the other 27 EU nations, what May wants is irrelevant. Which is why I used the phrase "acceptable to all parties". Including the UK electorate - we MUST have a say in the final proposal - it would be undemocratic to do anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Cats Hat Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 We voted to Leave. You may have voted to leave but the majority of people in the UK did NOT vote to leave. I say again, there is no popular support for leaving the EU which is why it is doomed to failure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdoctor Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 This is assuming that the government can come up with a clear proposal which is acceptable to all parties and therefore could actually be tabled - which is a tad optimistic at the moment, given they have had 2 years to come up with such a plan and aren't event beginning to articulate something acceptable to the EU and the the UK population. Unfair comment Brexit: We are 80% agreed on withdrawal deal, says Michel Barnier https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brexit-we-are-80-agreed-on-withdrawal-deal-says-michel-barnier-7s5k72gxz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 80/20 rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litotes Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Unfair comment Brexit: We are 80% agreed on withdrawal deal, says Michel Barnier https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brexit-we-are-80-agreed-on-withdrawal-deal-says-michel-barnier-7s5k72gxz 80% pregnant? And that was in July - I would guess the %age is now lower... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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