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37 minutes ago, Hecate said:

 

Try going back and reading properly.

Maybe I should clarify, I don’t agree with rape under any circumstances as I have said in a post. The post where  it says  no rape was committed I should have worded differently but it was an early hours post so I will just clarify what I meant=

As far as I’m concerned “ no rape was committed in my eyes until I see independent evidence to prove that rape was actually committed against victims”.

it was an early morning post as I say and by saying what I do does not mean that I support or believe Hamas.

I dont believe anything or anyone till I see some kind of supporting evidence.

3 hours ago, Al Bundy said:

Mafya would rather believe people who murder, rape, torture, and maim, take hostages, take photos of dead bodies to put on social media and who spit on young dead girls.

 

I wonder why?

 

But apparently it's nothing to do with religion!!!

 

Oh, and they are brown.

 

 

 

I don’t believe Hamas or fake evidence I believe independent evidence unlike you and others who believe propaganda as gospel 

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18 minutes ago, Organgrinder said:

As  said, mafya also, in another post said,  as I quoted   " he has no doubt that rape was used".

Are you sure?  The only person who's said anything along those lines is me:

 

20 hours ago, Hecate said:

... I don't doubt the use of rape and sexual violence against women during war.

 

I don't doubt that rape and sexual violence against women took place during the October 7th attack, or that it is ongoing during this conflict. ...

The only posts mafya has made on the subject of rape, in addition to explicitly stating that nobody was raped, expressed doubt about the veracity about claims of rape.

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5 minutes ago, mafya said:

Maybe I should clarify, I don’t agree with rape under any circumstances as I have said in a post. The post where  it says  no rape was committed I should have worded differently but it was an early hours post so I will just clarify what I meant=

As far as I’m concerned “ no rape was committed in my eyes until I see independent evidence to prove that rape was actually committed against victims”.

it was an early morning post as I say and by saying what I do does not mean that I support or believe Hamas.

I dont believe anything or anyone till I see some kind of supporting evidence.

I don’t believe Hamas or fake evidence I believe independent evidence unlike you and others who believe propaganda as gospel 

As much as I commend your admittance that you could have worded your post differently, you are still basically believing those parasites Hamas.

 

Are you saying that you don't believe rapes take place unless you personally see evidence?

 

Why on earth would you in any way shape or form believe anything that comes out of the mouth of certain individuals who are capable of committing such heinous acts of violence ?

 

I despair,  I really do.

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The idf terrorists have Hamas bodycam footage of the attacks so why have they not said that there is video of them raping people on the footage?

They have done private screenings of the footage to selected journalists but there is no mention of rape being recorded on the bodycam.

This to me doesn’t make sense because if they (Hamas) recorded the killings and other atrocities they carried out then why didn’t they also record the rapes they are supposed to have carried out?

5 minutes ago, Al Bundy said:

As much as I commend your admittance that you could have worded your post differently, you are still basically believing those parasites Hamas.

 

Are you saying that you don't believe rapes take place unless you personally see evidence?

 

Why on earth would you in any way shape or form believe anything that comes out of the mouth of certain individuals who are capable of committing such heinous acts of violence ?

 

I despair,  I really do.

Read post 3111, I don’t believe Hamas I believe independent verified evidence and so far I have seen none

This confirms Hamas bodycam videos were shown to journalists but again no rape mentioned or shown on footage=

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67198270

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1 minute ago, Al Bundy said:

https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1725512505701638529?s=20

 

 

Nothing to do with religion?

 

Don't make me laugh.

I don’t have twitter so can’t see your link.
The Israeli Palestinian issue is about Palestinians having their land and homes stolen and then being put under occupation so I don’t know why you keep saying it’s a religious issue when everyone knows what it started over.

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1 minute ago, mafya said:

I don’t have twitter so can’t see your link.
The Israeli Palestinian issue is about Palestinians having their land and homes stolen and then being put under occupation so I don’t know why you keep saying it’s a religious issue when everyone knows what it started over.

It's a Muslim bloke screaming at a Jew shouting "Allah Akbar" over and over again.

 

Doesn't that mean God is great?

 

Bit religious ain't it?

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Just now, Al Bundy said:

It's a Muslim bloke screaming at a Jew shouting "Allah Akbar" over and over again.

 

Doesn't that mean God is great?

 

Bit religious ain't it?

When there is thunder and lightning in this country I have an old relative who says “Allah ho Akbar” , it doesn’t mean she wants a religious war it’s like a declaration that God is great as a way of comfort.

You really need to learn a bit more about the subject

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38 minutes ago, mafya said:

Maybe I should clarify, I don’t agree with rape under any circumstances as I have said in a post. The post where  it says  no rape was committed I should have worded differently but it was an early hours post so I will just clarify what I meant=

As far as I’m concerned “ no rape was committed in my eyes until I see independent evidence to prove that rape was actually committed against victims”.

it was an early morning post as I say and by saying what I do does not mean that I support or believe Hamas.

I dont believe anything or anyone till I see some kind of supporting evidence.

That's good to know.  Do you apply that to all reports of rape coming out of rape crisis centres, or just to the reports from women who you're not inclined to believe?  Never mind.  I'm sure that after reports of weaponised rape used in Ukraine, in DR Congo and in every other instance of conflict where civilians are attacked, this will turn out to be entirely different.

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28 minutes ago, Hecate said:

Are you sure?  The only person who's said anything along those lines is me:

 

The only posts mafya has made on the subject of rape, in addition to explicitly stating that nobody was raped, expressed doubt about the veracity about claims of rape.

I'm trying to get something done and don't have all day to spend on here.

 

Let  me clarify again.   I also don't doubt that rape was committed,  and probably far worse too.

                     Having said that,   I don't accept that everything that everybody writes s the absolute truth,  especially when you don't know who originally made the statement

                    There are always more lies and false propaganda used in times of war than at any other time.  That happened in Ukraine too.

I'm speaking for myself now and not mafya and I believe statements that have been verified by a trusted source.

We all know that atrocities were committed on Oct 7 and I,  along with everybody else have already condemned that.

I now condemn the atrocities being committed daily by the Israeli's.

 

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36 minutes ago, Al Bundy said:

As much as I commend your admittance that you could have worded your post differently, you are still basically believing those parasites Hamas.

 

Are you saying that you don't believe rapes take place unless you personally see evidence?

 

Why on earth would you in any way shape or form believe anything that comes out of the mouth of certain individuals who are capable of committing such heinous acts of violence ?

 

I despair,  I really do.

Yeah because they have never cut peoples heads off on camera, burnt people alive in cages, stoned women to death or thrown gays off of buildings or rape white girls in huge organised gangs 

 

Someone's I mistake them for Buddhists they are so peaceful and loving 

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