'It's Acceptable To Park On Cycle Lanes, Curbs And Pavements'- Parking Services

[Planner1]

1 hour ago, sheffbag said:

Right at the very start it shows them walking down charles st and you can see a gap in the parking spaces where they could have parked. or even further down Charles st on the left hand side coming up is clear.

 

No defence for this, no matter how much you try to protect it

That’s not a gap in parking spaces, there’s a footway build out if you look. The vehicle you can see is in the last space next to the build out.

 

If they parked on the double yellow at that location, that would be a worse location in terms of planning for a speedy exit, as it’s essentially in a short cul-de-sac with one exit which can easily be blocked.

 

The truth is that none of us knows exactly what the situation was when the CEO’s arrived ( in terms of what spaces were or were not available) or exactly why they parked at that point.

 

The fact is that they are exempt from the waiting restrictions for very good practical operational reasons. To my knowledge all local authorities have these exemptions for enforcement.
 

You may not like it and you can complain about it if you wish. The CEO’s are fully aware that these situations arouse anger and resentment and they should always be prepared to justify their actions.

[sheffbag]

11 minutes ago, Planner1 said:

That’s not a gap in parking spaces, there’s a footway build out if you look. The vehicle you can see is in the last space next to the build out.

 

If they parked on the double yellow at that location, that would be a worse location in terms of planning for a speedy exit, as it’s essentially in a short cul-de-sac with one exit which can easily be blocked.

 

The truth is that none of us knows exactly what the situation was when the CEO’s arrived ( in terms of what spaces were or were not available) or exactly why they parked at that point.

 

The fact is that they are exempt from the waiting restrictions for very good practical operational reasons. To my knowledge all local authorities have these exemptions for enforcement.
 

You may not like it and you can complain about it if you wish. The CEO’s are fully aware that these situations arouse anger and resentment and they should always be prepared to justify their actions.

there isnt a vehicle next to the vehicle on charlesst.  there is a gap between the 2 cars shown.

 

[Planner1]

1 hour ago, fools said:

park your car in that spot for a day, let us know what happens

I don’t need to. I’d get a ticket from parking services for parking on the double yellow line, as they patrol it regularly.

 

Only the police can enforce obstruction and putting a wheel or even the full vehicle on the footway does not in itself constitute  obstruction. So, nothing would happen re the wheel on the kerb.
 

The situation in London is a little different as they have a regulation against pavement parking, so you would be likely to get a ticket there. That isn’t done outside London at the moment ( although the government have talked about giving authorities outside London the powers to do the same, but haven’t done so yet).

[Organgrinder]

9 minutes ago, Planner1 said:

That’s not a gap in parking spaces, there’s a footway build out if you look. The vehicle you can see is in the last space next to the build out.

 

If they parked on the double yellow at that location, that would be a worse location in terms of planning for a speedy exit, as it’s essentially in a short cul-de-sac with one exit which can easily be blocked.

 

The truth is that none of us knows exactly what the situation was when the CEO’s arrived ( in terms of what spaces were or were not available) or exactly why they parked at that point.

 

The fact is that they are exempt from the waiting restrictions for very good practical operational reasons. To my knowledge all local authorities have these exemptions for enforcement.
 

You may not like it and you can complain about it if you wish. The CEO’s are fully aware that these situations arouse anger and resentment and they should always be prepared to justify their actions.

My Bold  -  tells the blatant truth.  That they should always be prepared to justify their actions.

Not prepared to consider whether they are right or wrong but that they are always right and will think of something to justify this.

That is exactly why,  they will always be unpopular because they always determine they are right from the start,  as they did when they were chopping trees down..

We need a council who can admit  when they are wrong sometimes ( not just when it's all over and doesn't make any difference anyway ) and judge themselves through the public eyes.

 

Edited July 31, 2023 by Organgrinder

[Planner1]

5 minutes ago, sheffbag said:

there isnt a vehicle next to the vehicle on charlesst.  there is a gap between the 2 cars shown.

 

I can’t see any space. There’s a vehicle in the bottom space next to the yellow line. 
 

Like I said, if they were thinking of where to park to get a speedy exit, they would not park in the upper part of Charles St.

[fools]

pause the vid at 11 seconds, there's space in front of the 4x4, on double yellows, away from the junction, facing the direction of travel, not blocking a cycle lane, not on the pavement .. and handy for a Starsky and Hutch style escape

Edited July 31, 2023 by fools

[Planner1]

26 minutes ago, fools said:

pause the vid at 11 seconds, there's space in front of the 4x4, on double yellows, away from the junction, facing the direction of travel, not blocking a cycle lane, not on the pavement .. and handy for a Starsky and Hutch style escape

Ok, there’s a space when they are leaving. There may not have been when they arrived. We don’t know.

[fools]

1 minute ago, Planner1 said:

Ok, there’s a space when they are leaving. There may not have been when they arrived. We don’t know.

it's double yellows, normal people don't park on double yellows.

[Litotes]

On 29/07/2023 at 17:23, Planner1 said:

The CEO explains it. They need to park close to where they are working and it is acceptable for them to park on a restriction if there’s nowhere else they can park.

 

That is standard operating procedure for parking enforcement here and elsewhere. They are allowed to do it.

That’s what you may think, but the legal position is rather different.

But there was plenty of space to park which wasn't blocking a designated cycle lane.

[Litotes]

7 hours ago, Planner1 said:

The person taking the video doesn’t show any available spaces. You’d have thought that if there were any, they would have shown them, in order to highlight the point they were making.

 

The individual officers have to assess the situation and decide where to park. They are instructed to park in compliance with restrictions if they can. They are acutely conscious of this kind of situation as it is something that people often bring up.

Plenty of space on Norfolk Street where they won't be causing an obstruction or a hazard to cyclists - but no, they need to create that hazard and park on the pavement. Silly silly warden!