'It's Acceptable To Park On Cycle Lanes, Curbs And Pavements'- Parking Services

[HeHasRisen]

11 hours ago, Prettytom said:

How many tickets do you think he gets in an average month?  😇

Maybe Parking Services came to his village when he was a child and raped all the women. 

[Planner1]

14 hours ago, 26b-6 said:

The only vehicle in the video dangerously parked on a corner, in a cycle lane, over the curb causing obstructions to pedestrians, mobilty scooter users and other motorists is SCC Parking Services! And you defend this behaviour by the very people who are supposed to be leading by example!

 

The Police do not have to burgle your home in order to catch burglars. The fire brigade do not have to start fires to put out fires. And Parking Wardens do not have to dangerously and obstructively park to deter other motorists from doing the same. Leading by example and moral decency should be a given. And therefore like you say, they’re fit to serve us.

The vehicle in the video isn’t obstructing anyone. Perhaps if you had some understanding of the application of the law on obstruction you might not make ridiculous claims.

 

The vehicle has it’s wheels on the kerb only. The vast majority of the footway is unobstructed. 
 

When enforcing obstruction, the Police usually apply the “double buggy test” ie could someone pushing a double buggy along get past the vehicle without going into the road. The CEO’s understand this very well.

 

The police regularly force entry into premises in the course of their duty, so that argument doesn’t hold water. Would you be upset with the Fire Service for damaging your property with water when putting out the fire at your house?

 

You may have a moral objection to CEO’s breaking the rules to enforce, that’s fine. 
 

It’s been explained to you why the CEO’s have to break the rules sometimes in order to do their job. It’s also been explained to you what happens when there’s no threat of enforcement. 
 

Many places are fully parked up for long periods of the day. The CEO’s would not be able to enforce there safely or effectively if they couldn’t park their vehicle anywhere near. 
 

Is that what you want? Zero or very little enforcement?
 

What they are doing is within the rules that every council in the country apply. If you want to change the rules, you need to direct your complaints to the government, who set up the legislative framework within which councils operate.

[26b-6]

On 20/08/2023 at 11:22, Planner1 said:

The vehicle in the video isn’t obstructing anyone. Perhaps if you had some understanding of the application of the law on obstruction you might not make ridiculous claims.

 

The vehicle has it’s wheels on the kerb only. The vast majority of the footway is unobstructed. 
 

When enforcing obstruction, the Police usually apply the “double buggy test” ie could someone pushing a double buggy along get past the vehicle without going into the road. The CEO’s understand this very well.

 

The police regularly force entry into premises in the course of their duty, so that argument doesn’t hold water. Would you be upset with the Fire Service for damaging your property with water when putting out the fire at your house?

 

You may have a moral objection to CEO’s breaking the rules to enforce, that’s fine. 
 

It’s been explained to you why the CEO’s have to break the rules sometimes in order to do their job. It’s also been explained to you what happens when there’s no threat of enforcement. 
 

Many places are fully parked up for long periods of the day. The CEO’s would not be able to enforce there safely or effectively if they couldn’t park their vehicle anywhere near. 
 

Is that what you want? Zero or very little enforcement?
 

What they are doing is within the rules that every council in the country apply. If you want to change the rules, you need to direct your complaints to the government, who set up the legislative framework within which councils operate.

Their vehicle isn't causing any obstruction?  So no consequences for other folk who park on this corner, over a curb and block a cycle lane? If you believe this then just like those Parking-Wardens - you're not safe to drive either.   The Q-Park regularly has ample parking spaces.  Just checked on their website. But even if it was full. It isn't a justifiable excuse for Parking Wardens or any  motorist. As the video demonstrates. The only folk who need enforcement are the Parking Wardens.

 

The Police (usually) do not burgle homes, just like the fire-service do not usually start fires.  Both will force entry for emergencies such as saving lives or for arresting dangerous criminals.  Totally different circumstances.  Try harder next time.

 

 

 

 

[HeHasRisen]

"Parking Services should spend taxpayers money needlessly by parking in private multi storey car parks".

 

Send them your bank details mate so you can foot the bill personally for this, cheers.

Edited August 22, 2023 by HeHasRisen

[Planner1]

4 hours ago, 26b-6 said:

Their vehicle isn't causing any obstruction?  So no consequences for other folk who park on this corner, over a curb and block a cycle lane? If you believe this then just like those Parking-Wardens - you're not safe to drive either.   The Q-Park regularly has ample parking spaces.  Just checked on their website. But even if it was full. It isn't a justifiable excuse for Parking Wardens or any  motorist. As the video demonstrates. The only folk who need enforcement are the Parking Wardens.

 

The Police (usually) do not burgle homes, just like the fire-service do not usually start fires.  Both will force entry for emergencies such as saving lives or for arresting dangerous criminals.  Totally different circumstances.  Try harder next time.

 

 

 

 

That’s correct. Look at the video. No one was obstructed, no cyclists went past, no one was endangered. Roads were quiet. Few people around.

 

It is not reasonable in my view to expect the CEO’s to park in a private sector car park and incur unnecessary expense and delay to their work. As I have explained to you,  having the vehicle close by in order to make a rapid exit is an important safety consideration in enforcement operations.  Parking in the multi storey would not achieve this, so is a non starter in my view.

 

It was you who brought up the ridiculous comparisons with the emergency services in the first place.

 

There are reasonable comparisons with the emergency services, who are also exempted from compliance with traffic regulations when using vehicles in the course of their duties, just like CEO’s are.

 

I don’t have to try harder. The CEO’s were doing nothing wrong under the current regulatory setup. They are allowed to park where they parked. As I said earlier, take your complaints to the government if you don’t like it.

[26b-6]

On 22/08/2023 at 09:24, Planner1 said:

That’s correct. Look at the video. No one was obstructed, no cyclists went past, no one was endangered. Roads were quiet. Few people around.

 

It is not reasonable in my view to expect the CEO’s to park in a private sector car park and incur unnecessary expense and delay to their work. As I have explained to you,  having the vehicle close by in order to make a rapid exit is an important safety consideration in enforcement operations.  Parking in the multi storey would not achieve this, so is a non starter in my view.

 

It was you who brought up the ridiculous comparisons with the emergency services in the first place.

 

There are reasonable comparisons with the emergency services, who are also exempted from compliance with traffic regulations when using vehicles in the course of their duties, just like CEO’s are.

 

I don’t have to try harder. The CEO’s were doing nothing wrong under the current regulatory setup. They are allowed to park where they parked. As I said earlier, take your complaints to the government if you don’t like it.

Even a blind-person can see Sheffield parking Services was causing obstructions. Explain how parking on double yellows, over a curb, on a dangerous corner and in a cycle lane does not endanger peoples lives? Why do you think we have such road infrastructure?

 

There are no grounds for parking so dangerously and  inconsiderately. This applies to all motorists, even Sheffield Parking Services!

 

On 22/08/2023 at 08:14, HeHasRisen said:

"Parking Services should spend taxpayers money needlessly by parking in private multi storey car parks".

 

Send them your bank details mate so you can foot the bill personally for this, cheers.

You mean like most other motorists do?

[HeHasRisen]

Bloody hell thought you had given up? 

[RollingJ]

53 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said:

Bloody hell thought you had given up? 

Unfortunately it appears not - and it appears he/she has been on the moonshine again.

[Planner1]

8 hours ago, 26b-6 said:

Even a blind-person can see Sheffield parking Services was causing obstructions. Explain how parking on double yellows, over a curb, on a dangerous corner and in a cycle lane does not endanger peoples lives? Why do you think we have such road infrastructure?

 

There are no grounds for parking so dangerously and  inconsiderately. This applies to all motorists, even Sheffield Parking Services!

Why you dragging up 3 month old posts on subjects that have been done to death?

 

Feeling bored? Got a parking ticket?

 

Drivers are allowed to stop on double yellow lines, for example to pick up and set down passengers or load and unload (when permitted). So, simply stopping on one is not considered inherently unsafe, it’s just undesirable to have vehicles parked there all the time. That’s why the restriction is there.

 

As I understand it, for obstruction to be enforced, someone actually has to be seen to be obstructed, ie they can’t get past the vehicle. The police usually apply the double buggy test on footways, if a double buggy can get past the vehicle on the footway, it’s not considered to be potentially causing obstruction.
 

No one is obstructed in that video and it can be plainly seen that pedestrians can easily get past the vehicle on the footway and motorists and cyclists can pass on the road. There is no obstruction.

 

If you don’t understand that for reasons of practicality and safety, in order to enforce against motorists who park inappropriately or in contravention of a restriction, CEO’s sometimes have to park in less than ideal locations, there’s no reasoning with you. There isn’t always somewhere they can park “legally” and safely.  Most people understand and accept that this is a reasonable way of working. To my knowledge every local council in the country works that way. It isn’t practical any other way. 

[26b-6]

On 15/11/2023 at 09:29, Planner1 said:

Why you dragging up 3 month old posts on subjects that have been done to death?

 

Feeling bored? Got a parking ticket?

 

Drivers are allowed to stop on double yellow lines, for example to pick up and set down passengers or load and unload (when permitted). So, simply stopping on one is not considered inherently unsafe, it’s just undesirable to have vehicles parked there all the time. That’s why the restriction is there.

 

As I understand it, for obstruction to be enforced, someone actually has to be seen to be obstructed, ie they can’t get past the vehicle. The police usually apply the double buggy test on footways, if a double buggy can get past the vehicle on the footway, it’s not considered to be potentially causing obstruction.
 

No one is obstructed in that video and it can be plainly seen that pedestrians can easily get past the vehicle on the footway and motorists and cyclists can pass on the road. There is no obstruction.

 

If you don’t understand that for reasons of practicality and safety, in order to enforce against motorists who park inappropriately or in contravention of a restriction, CEO’s sometimes have to park in less than ideal locations, there’s no reasoning with you. There isn’t always somewhere they can park “legally” and safely.  Most people understand and accept that this is a reasonable way of working. To my knowledge every local council in the country works that way. It isn’t practical any other way. 

Why does posting on old threads bother you? Or is it something else  been exposed which irks you....

 

Even a blind-person can see the dangers.  If you believe parking in a cycle lane and pavement on a dangerous corner on a busy city street is acceptable and causing no obstructions, then you should not be driving either.