Euro Elections

[Dardandec 32]

25 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

The Leave vote will be huge.

OK Mr Boot. Take a long slow deep breath in................. and your back in the room.

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2 hours ago, Car Boot said:

So what you mean is that only Lib Dem votes can be counted as votes for Remaining in the EU?

 

The Leave vote will be huge.

But the Remain vote will be even bigger.

 

Will you be voting for Farage then?

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3 hours ago, Dardandec said:

OK Mr Boot. Take a long slow deep breath in................. and your back in the room.

He’s right. I don’t want him to be right, but he’s right. A vote for the tories is a leave vote - that there will be many for them. Brexit party, ukip will get plenty. Labour - still don’t know what they want, corbyn is very much Leave, the rest varies so god knows. Greens, Lib Dem’s - this should be their day in the sun and I’d be staggered if their combined votes hits 20%. Why isn’t dear old uncle Vince pushing harder?

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9 hours ago, tinfoilhat said:

A vote for the tories is a leave vote - 

By all accounts most people who vote Tory in these elections will be remainers.

 

Leave supporting Tories, including councillors and even a few Conservative MPs have made no bones about the fact that they intend to vote for Farage on the 23rd. The reason why the Conservative vote is predicted to collapse next week is because Conservative leavers (about 60% of the party's support) will either vote for Farage or not vote at all.

 

The Brexit Party will effectively strip the leave vote from all other political parties.

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26 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

By all accounts most people who vote Tory in these elections will be remainers.

 

Then they'd be stupid then wouldn't they - really stupid. The Tories have been trying (and failing) to leave for three years and when May resigns, she'll be replaced by someone like Boris (but not boris) who will try harder to leave.

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34 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

 when May resigns, she'll be replaced by someone like Boris (but not boris) who will try harder to leave.

I think it is without doubt that the next Tory leader will be Leave supporter (most likely either Gove or Johnson) but it won’t change the arithmetic in the House of Commons.

 

Despite all their sniping at Theresa May from the sidelines, they will not be able to negotiate anything better than she has already been offered so their only remaining option is to try for a no deal.

 

Once again, Parliament won’t accept that and we are back to square one with yet another extension.

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2 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Despite all their sniping at Theresa May from the sidelines, they will not be able to negotiate anything better than she has already been offered so their only remaining option is to try for a no deal.

 

Once again, Parliament won’t accept that and we are back to square one with yet another extension.

Unless parliament do something radical we will be back to a no-deal scenario, and its highly unlikely that the EU will grant yet another extension even more so because the leadership will be changing.

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10 minutes ago, apelike said:

and its highly unlikely that the EU will grant yet another extension

I agree, in which case the only resolution will then be to revoke Article 50.

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1 hour ago, apelike said:

Unless parliament do something radical we will be back to a no-deal scenario, and its highly unlikely that the EU will grant yet another extension even more so because the leadership will be changing.

Given that you'll have your contingent of MEPs (useless ones to be sure, because they'll be UKIPpers and the like), the EU will grant you a multi-year extension, conditional upon budget payments continuing post-2020 (a solution preventing a no-deal crash out, which MPs and the UK government will be only too happy to entertain).

 

Business will continue as usual, not as good as it could be for the UK but not that badly (i.e. like currently), but for the voluminous amount of feathers spewed over it by true Brexit believers.

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I've just turned over to a party political broadcast which I took to be for the Brexit Party and was very confused to see brown faces on it. It actually was a Conservative Party broadcast but was basically saying 'Vote for us if you want Brexit'.

 

They are certainly running scared of Farage!

 

[Car Boot 10]

On 16/05/2019 at 21:47, I1L2T3 said:

A vote for the destruction of the NHS

 

How very socialist!

Yes. A vote for the Lib Dems is quite literally a vote for the destruction of the NHS.

 

It's also a vote for economic austerity, increased tuition fees and to be governed by Monsieur Barnier and Mr Juncker.

Edited May 18, 2019 by Car Boot

[WiseOwl182 10]

17 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

I've just turned over to a party political broadcast which I took to be for the Brexit Party and was very confused to see brown faces on it. It actually was a Conservative Party broadcast but was basically saying 'Vote for us if you want Brexit'.

 

They are certainly running scared of Farage!

 

 

Referendum number 2:

 

Leave:

Conservatives

Brexit Party

UKIP

 

Remain:

Lib Dems

Change UK

Green Party

 

After the election, add them all up per side, then assign 50% of the Labour vote to each side (because nobody actually has a scooby where they stand) and see if it's a leave or remain win.