Occupy Sheffield Cathedral

[Tony 10]

Which feelings?

 

I'm awaiting to see if they come up with some sort cogent point before I can express much of an opinion on why they are camping outside Sheffield Cathedral.

[NorthernStar 11]

Most criticism seems to be against the government or the bankers.

The government is made up of people we elected.

The majority of people still vote along party lines, at the last election many who supported the LibDems still voted Labour or Conservative as they imagined a vote any other way was wasted.

 

Most people are generally misinformed and tend to read right wing sensationalist news papers and other sources of information ran by people with a typically right wing agenda. The governance of this country is market led and in no way ran in the interest of most people. As you also mention people tend to have a polarised party line that they have been brought up to support one side or the other and somewhat ignorantly refuse to budge regardless of what their particular group do, new labour is a prime example of this).

 

The bankers are people who have risen to the top of their profession and so hopefully know what they are doing in the best interests of the country.

The question I pose is ...Are there any in government or banking who are in sympathy with the protestors ?

 

Firstly you fail to acknowledge that people don't rise in companies this is a myth, social mobility has never been so low, and companies don't give a monky's about the good of the nation.

 

Bankers and government don't like the protesters because it forces people to see the shortcomings and shoddy behaviour of these so called professionals.

[green 10]

The question I pose is ...Are there any in government or banking who are in sympathy with the protestors ?

 

There have been a few down at OccupyLSX, Ed Miliband spoke about the occupations in an article here...

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/nov/05/ed-miliband-business-finance-politics?INTCMP=SRCH

 

And here is an article from Reuters regarding a survey from City workers in the pay gap. http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/11/07/uk-britain-protests-idUKTRE7A637H20111107

[dutch 68]

Most criticism seems to be against the government or the bankers.

The government is made up of people we elected.

The majority of people still vote along party lines, at the last election many who supported the LibDems still voted Labour or Conservative as they imagined a vote any other way was wasted.

The bankers are people who have risen to the top of their profession and so hopefully know what they are doing in the best interests of the country.

The question I pose is ...Are there any in government or banking who are in sympathy with the protestors ?

 

Check a little online and you find few bankers statements admitting the accusations of corruption and greedyness in big bussiness and politics to be very true.

 

Government is made of liers. Don't matter where you go power corrupts and makes politicians very sick. Voting is meaningless, it only lets you choose wich jail you go to. Total freedom does not exist in politics, only compromises.

 

This global occupy is very very new. It is different. It is weird because it is different. Why is it like that?

It is because they dont play the same rules as established bussiness and government does. They dont have a goal like a politician. It is not greedy like a bank or bussiness.

It cannot play the sick old rules and regulations that makes it impossible to start fresh. They are looking for something new, totally new and fresh and this cannot be done the old way.

 

It will take a while for most people to understand this because they are not used to go down that road but after a while that may change.

 

Occupy has had enough of corrupt banking bussiness and politics caused by greed, selfishness, lies, lust for power.

They dont fight it like stalin in russia did, that did not work.

Something new and fresh is needed and to get there they cannot start using same old path and methods as the established rotten society has done.

 

Unfortunaly power corrupts big time and even people with good intentions have turned into monsters after they got power.

 

Even ghandi personally blessed the fighterplanes attacking pakistan while in power 10 years after he declared all arms should be thrown into the ocean while fighting for global peace.

[woodmally 10]

wouldn't you feel better if the government did the Greek solution and wrote maybe 60- 70 percent of your debt off!. so instead of you paying over the odds for your debt, the bankers and the hedge fund managers, takes the hit for you. after all its only their the profit margin for the interest on your loan that they will lose. wouldnt that be better?

 

No no and no. The whole idea of a capitalist system is that banks are profit making companies that lend money to people. If you asked the banks to write off the debt so to speak. Firstly they will be less likely to lend in the future causing bigger problems than we saw with Woolies.

 

Secondly the whole of the banking system which is based on profit would collapse. What do you propose instead a communist state?

[Bulgarian 10]

What would us 99% owning the land resolve ?

People kill each other over their house boundaries, imagine if we all owned 0.00000001% of the (usable) land on earth, how would anything get done/grown. ?

 

We'd run out of food in a year.

 

anyone........ ?

[harvey19 541]

Check a little online and you find few bankers statements admitting the accusations of corruption and greedyness in big bussiness and politics to be very true.

 

Government is made of liers. Don't matter where you go power corrupts and makes politicians very sick. Voting is meaningless, it only lets you choose wich jail you go to. Total freedom does not exist in politics, only compromises.

 

This global occupy is very very new. It is different. It is weird because it is different. Why is it like that?

It is because they dont play the same rules as established bussiness and government does. They dont have a goal like a politician. It is not greedy like a bank or bussiness.

It cannot play the sick old rules and regulations that makes it impossible to start fresh. They are looking for something new, totally new and fresh and this cannot be done the old way.

 

It will take a while for most people to understand this because they are not used to go down that road but after a while that may change.

 

Occupy has had enough of corrupt banking bussiness and politics caused by greed, selfishness, lies, lust for power.

They dont fight it like stalin in russia did, that did not work.

Something new and fresh is needed and to get there they cannot start using same old path and methods as the established rotten society has done.

 

Unfortunaly power corrupts big time and even people with good intentions have turned into monsters after they got power.

 

Even ghandi personally blessed the fighterplanes attacking pakistan while in power 10 years after he declared all arms should be thrown into the ocean while fighting for global peace.

It sounds like a vicious circle. Eventually things will always be the same because new idealists will eventually become the same as their predecessors.

[green 10]

No no and no. The whole idea of a capitalist system is that banks are profit making companies that lend money to people. If you asked the banks to write off the debt so to speak. Firstly they will be less likely to lend in the future causing bigger problems than we saw with Woolies.

 

Secondly the whole of the banking system which is based on profit would collapse. What do you propose instead a communist state?

 

Did the banking sector not already collapse and we bailed them with tax payers monies, and moved the debt from them to us?

[green 10]

anyone........ ?

 

We dont debate ridiculous comments. We ignore them. Like your ignoring whats happening around you.

[Badlittlepup 10]

Check a little online and you find few bankers statements admitting the accusations of corruption and greedyness in big bussiness and politics to be very true.

 

Government is made of liers. Don't matter where you go power corrupts and makes politicians very sick. Voting is meaningless, it only lets you choose wich jail you go to. Total freedom does not exist in politics, only compromises.

 

This global occupy is very very new. It is different. It is weird because it is different. Why is it like that?

It is because they dont play the same rules as established bussiness and government does. They dont have a goal like a politician. It is not greedy like a bank or bussiness.

It cannot play the sick old rules and regulations that makes it impossible to start fresh. They are looking for something new, totally new and fresh and this cannot be done the old way.

 

It will take a while for most people to understand this because they are not used to go down that road but after a while that may change.

 

Occupy has had enough of corrupt banking bussiness and politics caused by greed, selfishness, lies, lust for power.

They dont fight it like stalin in russia did, that did not work.

Something new and fresh is needed and to get there they cannot start using same old path and methods as the established rotten society has done.

 

Unfortunaly power corrupts big time and even people with good intentions have turned into monsters after they got power.

 

Even ghandi personally blessed the fighterplanes attacking pakistan while in power 10 years after he declared all arms should be thrown into the ocean while fighting for global peace.

 

See this is the problem with groups like Occupy. They never garner any support because every time someone involves with them to open their gob and say something which is supposed to make them look good it actually makes them look monumentally dumbass.

[Badlittlepup 10]

We dont debate ridiculous comments. We ignore them. Like your ignoring whats happening around you.

 

Ditto. Ditto. Ditto.

[Phanerothyme 12]

anyone........ ?

 

That's 11 acres each, every man woman and child. Not bad.