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  1. Well not really, because the UK doesn't trade with "each individual EU member" either. It's still a basic misunderstanding of essential principles of economics and business. The UK doesn't really trade with any other nation, bloc, constitution, business or consumer, because the UK is a country. The UK no more makes you trade with Tesco than at Asda. The same principle applies for business; people trade with who they want to trade with. The UK does not trade, the EU does not trade, individual nations do not trade. It's not a matter of opinion or even pointless pedantry. Business A (UK based) trades Widgets with Business B (based wherever) because together they are a willing seller and buyer. The prevailing macro economic circumstances may or may not suit today's trade. Tomorrow it will be different when they are trading Wotsits. If Widgets more attractive in one place or another, and they actually available to buy, the supply moves around. It's trade 101. Price is elastic, as is demand. That elasticity depends on very many factors that go far beyond tariffs. For example, if consumers in Bigland like Wotsits from Otherland they will pay a premium until the elastic snaps. The same essential principles apply to governments who rely on votes from a largely mollified populace. If Wotsits aren't available because Bigland's government has dropped a clanger the populace gets antsy and kicks them out... ... I'll stop there, I'm not here to provide basic tuition that 15 year olds should know. Bored now. Get your biased response in while I really don't care. I suppose what I am trying to get at is don't be so desperate for your personal bias to be right that you end up hating everything around you. 2016 happened, ignore the political posturing, see the upsides and make the best of the life that's been handed out.
  2. Fundamentally wrong though since it confuses the micro and the macro. It's amazing that people still think that the EU and the UK do business together. I can't dismantle the arguments because they are inappropriate bias led grandstanding rather than arguments.
  3. 1. The Palestine matter is a gnat on the rear of Middle East politics. Whatever side anyone chooses to be on the simple truth is that it is used as a proxy to attack Israel by real countries who historically have a problem with Israel. Those real countries have been beating up each other for decades too depending on which tribal loyalty they adhere to. Removing the tribal loyalties by bringing them alongside Israel only leaves Iran out in the cold and nobody is very upset by that - except Iran. 2. The Nobel Peace Prize isn't really suitable for either Thunberg or the WHO is it. I did say that people would be upset
  4. I listened to it as well and was astounded at the oversimplification of the numbers offered. The obvious problem with the highlighted statement is that cases and deaths have become disassociated. The recent increase in cases has not resulted in an increase in deaths because of the age profile of those cases. HMG or SAGE haven't offered any evidence that these will become associated again now that society has extreme countermeasures in place at all levels. Another question that I haven't seen answered is whether there are enough vulnerable people left to have the correlation we saw before, or are they already dead? Right now, the predictions are zombie statistics supported by junk science. We should be careful not to put too much reliance on them.
  5. The two above posts amply demonstrate that basic economics and business is desperately lacking in the school curriculum.
  6. It is traders and consumer who will lose substantial amounts of trade with the UK who need to prepare for no deal. The effect on the EU27 nations will be reduced tax receipts, an angry business community and farmers burning animal carcasses outside the Elysee Palace. Perhaps consumers will be upset that langoustines are three times the price but they will be able to comfort eat themselves with the Calais Cheese Mountain.
  7. Some people are going to be very upset when Trump wins the Nobel Peace Prize for bringing peace to the Middle East.
  8. @Dannyno You have misunderstood the legislation you've googled. It is an unadopted road so the "authority" has as much authority over as they do responsibility. That is to say, unless you can point out a very specific TRO (of which there is none) they have neither responsibility nor authority. Criminal matters under the RTA have no relevance to this road and the authority has no criminal jurisdiction anyway.
  9. You are not just defending it antisemitism, you are doing it. It might just be a category error on your part, a lack of understanding, relevant knowledge and experience. As Paul Simon - a famous Jew - once said; "I want a shot at redemption". Over to you. Yes
  10. Now you are gaslighting. The article in the OP is crystal clear about the issue. The headline is: ^^ that is antisemitism and you are trying to put up a robust defence of antisemitism. Why is that?
  11. Posted elsewhere in case it was missed This is the accepted IHRA working definition of antisemitism that could help anyone who has antisemitic tendencies. “Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.” Here are some examples of day to day antisemitism at work. Contemporary examples of antisemitism in public life, the media, schools, the workplace, and in the religious sphere could, taking into account the overall context, include, but are not limited to: Calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of a radical ideology or an extremist view of religion. Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions. Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews. Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust). Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust. Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations. Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor. Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation. Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis. Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis. Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.
  12. It is impossible to discuss individuals unless one is being engaged so in this discussion you have been treated as an individual. At the risk of you taking offence, and I hope you won/t, have you stopped being antisemitic and gaslighting in the light of the new information in this topic? Rather than just bawling you out and calling you names - like that protest in the OP - a few people here have tried to give you and others a greater understanding through discussion and information. Ultimately it will be your decision whether or not you turn the corner but you need to know that when the mirror is held up that everyone can see the reflection, not just you.
  13. Wiley does need help but he's a symptom, not a cause. We're all individuals who can look at ourselves and how we approach life. We can try to make things better or we can blame everyone else that something isn't right. However misguided we might be, once we have new information it's up to us to change our own view and maybe those around us. Anti-antisemitism can grow just as fast as antisemitism if we want it to be so. The more of us that treat people as individuals, full of foibles, faults and fantasticity, the better we will all be in the long run.
  14. I *think* I have unscrambled the quotes correctly, apologies if not H. I'm trying - maybe not succeeding much - to be more in tune with the people I know / knew with tattoos on their forearm, first, second or third hand. I'd like to think we're trying to battle <removed> with brains and a bit of compassion. I don't want this thread to become political but in passing I hope we'll agree that the Corbyn acolytes are pretty high up on the antisemitism scale whether they know it or not and because of them the Cable St thing is so tainted these days that their sensibilities and the false pride that emanates thereof seem to have become more important than the point of Cable St , ie antisemitism and fascists on the street. Cable St has become a bit like Woodstock and I simply don't believe the people who roll it out with claims that they (or their family) were there and down with the kids on the day. It's become a cool meme to be trotted out, not a point of reference with a real purpose. It's become an affectation with no more social impact outside their peer group than a mullet haircut. At the end of the day this is all so much so-so. I still think that the way to not be a filthy racist is to not be a filthy racist and I don't give a tinker's what sex, gender, race, caste, nationality, or whatever you are. Just treat people as individuals instead of groups.
  15. As I said before Perhaps you aren't a denialist / antisemite and despite the contents of this thread you simply aren't aware of the scale and facts. I can help you with that. Here's just one organisation set up specifically to protect the physical safety of Jews in the UK. https://cst.org.uk/about-cst 650 buildings. 1000 events. That's astonishing don't you think? It's a big enough problem for the Home Office to provide tens of millions of pounds of funding to protect Jews from physical harm on these shores. It's shameful that this needs to happen in the UK in 2020. Not to protect children from being physically attacked just because they of their ethnicity they don't. Come on tinfoilhat, you're a bright bloke, don't just argue for the sake of it with me, you know it doesn't wash. You're a gnats **** off spouting Jewish conspiracy tropes. Let's not go there.
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