Tuppie

There are a number of Directories on the Sheffield Indexers site. http://www.sheffieldindexers.com

There is a photograph here. http://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=3083

Been researching Family/Local and Social History of the area for 15 years, Hackenthorpe was in the parish of Beighton....you are referrring to a registration district, which can span more than one parish or county boundary. Kelly's Directory of the County of Derby, pub. London (May, 1891) - pp.42-43 Beighton, Derbyshire (with Hackenthorpe) BEIGHTON is a village and parish, most pleasantly situated on an eminence on the Yorkshire border, with a station on the Manchester, Sheffield and Lincolnshire railway, 10 miles north-east from Chesterfield, 7 south-east from Sheffield, 4 north from Eckington station and 2 south from Woodhouse Mill station on the Manchester, Sheffield and Lincolnshire railway, in the North Eastern division of the county, Eckington petty sessional division, hundred of Scarsdale, union and county court district or Rotherham, rural deanery of Staveley, archdeaconry of Derby and diocese of Southwell. The approach to the village from Eckington is through a cutting in the solid rock. The church of St. Mary is an ancient building of stone, in the Norman and Perpendicular styles, consisting of chancel, nave, aisles, south porch, and a western tower containing 6 bells: the church was restored in 1868 : there are several stained windows and sittings for 300 persons. The register dates from the year 1653, and is in good condition. The living is a vicarage, net yearly value £213, including 22 acres of glebe, with residence, in the gift of Earl Manvers, and held since 1889 by the Rev. Robert Stewart Hare M.A. of Trinity College, Dublin. There are Wesleyan and Methodist chapels here, a Primitive Methodist chapel is (1891) in course of erection, and there is a Methodist chapel at Hackenthorpe. The charities for distribution amount to £36 yearly and there is a small endowment for ten free scholars. A reading and recreation room was opened in October, 1882. The Earl Manvers is lord of the manor and principal landowner James Hounsfield esq. of Hackenthorpe Hall and John Jubb esq. of Drake House are also considerable landowners. The area is 3,070 acres; rateable value, £16,697; the population in 1871 was 1,555, and in 1881 was 2,069. The parish comprises the hamlets of HACKENTHORPE, 2 miles east, where scythes, sickles and reaping hooks are manufactured very extensively ; BIRLEY, 2½ east, and SOTHAL WATERTHORPE, ½ east. BIRLEY is a picturesque hamlet, celebrated for its spa and baths; the water at this place has been in repute for centuries. Christ Church Hackenthorpe was built in 1899 as a Chapel of Ease for St Mary’s Beighton, then in the Diocese of Derby. It’s position, away from the heart of the village, was due to the fact that the main financier was Mr Hounsfield who owned Cotleigh Hall and wanted the Church near to his hall for easy access! Tuppie

Have you tried. http://www.picturesheffield.com

There is quite a lot of information out there, have you been to the local studies library on Surrey Street. There are also local history books in Crystal Peaks library. Before 1966 it was a part of Derbyshire and in the ancient parish of Beighton. It became part of the diocese of Sheffield in 1974. Tuppie

Sheffield Family History Society are transcribing the births at the Sheffield register office. We have now reached 1894 and these are online at http://libplugins.sheffield.gov.uk/bmd/home.aspx There is no birth for a Thomas Whittington registered in Sheffield or Ecclesall Bierlow in the time period you have given. Have you found him on any census with his parents....? Where did the information come from that he was born in Sheffield..? Tuppie

1954 Kellys Directory; 77 Forres Road, Costello Miss Frances, Grocer.

I have sent you a PM Tuppie

Findmypast and Genesreunited are both operated by the same company, Brightsolid, as is Scotlandspeople. Tuppie

As there is a 100 year closure on information in the census the latest one to be released is the 1911 which was released early. This came about because Colin Hinson (a family historian) challenged the 100 year rule which was not in force when the census was taken in 1911. As findmypast won the contract...with the National Archives for the digitisation of the census Ancestry won't be able to release it until January 2012. Tuppie http://www.sheffieldfhs.org.uk

No it is not available free. http://www.findmypast.com won the contract to digitise the 1911 and it is only available on their site where you can buy credits. Tuppie

The Sheffield Family History Society have received the following request for help. Now I know you all like a challenge so I am posting it here. Your expertise is needed regarding local history in Sheffield & District. British Pathé is the finest newsreel archive in the world and between 1897 and 1970, in addition to major world events, British Pathé recorded many hours of the way we live on the British Isles and this, naturally, includes footage of Sheffield & District. Your society's members can assist with identifying some of the people, places and events that are not included on the canister notes to ensure that the newsreel history of Sheffield & District is correct for future generations. All you and your members need to do is visit the British Pathé website http://www.britishpathe.com http://www.britishpathe.com and search for places, people and events in Sheffield & District and having watched the films check the notes. If you find an inaccuracy or omission please tell us the film id and the new information you have identified by emailing [email protected] To make things easier and, we hope, enjoyable for you, this can be done a few films at a time, simply e-mail us when the correction is identified. It does not matter if information is duplicated by different people as this helps corroborate the information. Please do not send your replies to me but to the mail address in the article. Thanks. Angela editor Sheffield & District FHS

The NBI lists the following burials at Legsby St Thomas. 2nd Feb 1864 Henry VALLE aged 1 17th Feb 1864 Samuel VALLE aged 5 29th March 1864 Charles VALLE aged 13 7th Dec 1877 Lazine VALLE aged 21 11 April 1878 Sarah VALLE aged 52 The last would appear to be the mother. Tuppie http://www.sheffieldfhs.org.uk

Have you tried searching the Eckington Court Rolls after 1804 which are available at Sheffield Archives. These are also the records of The Court Baron which deals with the selling and buying of property. Tuppie

It was WHITINGS...I believe Tuppie

There are some burials listed at City Road on the indexers site. http://www.sheffieldindexers.com Theaker, Bertha (Wife Of Thomas Grayson, age 64). Died at 12 Herries Rd; Buried on April 2, 1936 in General Portion ground; Grave Number 12722, Section BB of City Road Cemetery, Sheffield. THEAKER, Thomas Grayson (Furnaceman, age 69). Died at 12 Herries Rd; Buried on March 16, 1937 in General Portion ground; Grave Number 12722, Section BB of City Road Cemetery, There are 8 burials in this grave including a BISHOP child. 12 Herries Road was the Firvale hospital. Tuppie

If you have the childs name from the burial register why not send for her birth certificate...at least you will have her parent/s names and an address to start with. Or send for the death certificate and see if the informant on this gives you any clues. Tuppie

One of the most common errors when researching family history is to stick rigidly to one spelling of a surname. Errors occur whenever names are recorded and surnames naturally evolve and change over the years. The less common surnames you can generally find with several different spellings. The problem is that as you go back, you'll find many of those variations on official documents too. Sometimes they're accidental, sometimes your ancestor might have wanted to change the spelling for some reason. As you delve through records it becomes imperative to keep an open mind when you're looking, and to use your imagination when it comes to spelling. It's difficult enough tracking someone who's changed a surname. It's worse when you have to deal with accidental changes on official documents. Often it's because clerks or clergymen, entering the names, have misheard and misspelt, either through plain error or imagination. Since there's a fair chance your ancestors - especially from the early 19th century backwards - were illiterate, they'd have no way of knowing it was wrong and asking for a correction. They may even have allowed the writer to decide on the spelling himself. Only when the function of keeping vital records passed from the church to the state in the 19c did the spelling of surnames generally assume a standard form. The 1851 census index produced by Derbyshire FHS only lists the surname WILBRAHAM It is unusual to give the mother's name on a marriage certificate...does it give her father's name and occupation. Tuppie

The records are deposited at TNA depending on when the divorce took place. The survival rate of divorce case files is: 1858-1927: almost 100% 1928-1937: 80% You can search the online catalogue in series J77. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/divorce.htm Divorces were usually reported in the local newspaper, which could be searched if you have an approximate date. Tuppie

It was the Vicarage for St Marys church. Tuppie

The one I remember played around Derbyshire on New Years Eve was T'Owd Tup. Here comes me & our old lass Short of money and short of brass Pay for a pint and let us sup And then we'll show you our old Tup. OLD MAN & WOMAN SING: As we were going to Derby Upon a market day We had the finest Tup That ever fed on hay {CHORUS} Fai-o—lai nanny-go-lai CHARACTER: {JOINING OLD MAN & WOMAN} What are you doing with that Tup? OLD MAN & OLD WOMAN: {IN UNISON) We were taking him to Derby to be stuck, but we don't think he'll make it. {ADDRESSES AUDIENCE} Is there a butcher in the house? CHARACTER: Our Bill's a blacksmith OLD MAN & OLD WOMAN: You daft old bugger [or fool or idiot etc.] We don't want a blacksmith, we want a butcher. CHARACTER: Our Bob's a butcher. OLD MAN & OLD WOMAN: You daft bugger [or fool etc.] Fetch him here and tell him he's wanted. CHARACTER: {WALKS TO DOOR & SHOUTS} Bob! Bring yourself here, you're wanted. {ENTER BOB THE BUTCHER} BOB: What's going on? What's all the noise about? {LOOKING ROUND SEES TUP} By - that's as fine a tup as ever I've seen, where are you taking him? OLD MAN & OLD WOMAN: We were taking him to Derby to be stuck, but we don't think he'll make it. so we want him sticking now. Are you a butcher? BOB: That I am, the best in Derby. OLD MAN & WOMAN; Will you stick the Tup? BOB: {TAKING KNIFE PROM APRON} Aye, I will that. Where do you want him sticking, head or -tail? OLD MAN & WOMAN: In the head to be sure. {BOB PLUNGES KNIFE TO TUP'S HEAD. TUP FALLS TO GROUND MAKING APPROPRIATE NOISES & KICKS ETC.} ALL SING: (EXCEPT BUTCHER) And now the butcher has stuck the Tup Who's in danger of his life He's up to his knees in blood. Crying out for a longer life [All] All the women in Derby Came begging for his ears To make aprons with To last them forty years All the men in Derby Came begging for his tail To make a big strong rope To hang in Derby jail And all the boys in Derby Came begging for his eyes To make footballs with To lastthem [sic] all their lives And all the girls in Derby Came begging for his hide To make shoes with To keep their feet warm inside And now our song is ended We have no more to say Pleace give us a Christmas (New Year) gift And let us go away Tuppie

You need to write down what you know of your parents and grandparents...including any birth, marriage or death dates. Then work backwards one generation at a time proving as you go, by obtaining certificates and census information. How far back can you go with certainty...a number of posters on the forum have access to the various census from 1841 to 1911. Tuppie

1954 Kellys 207/223 Portobello. Christopher Johnson (Cutlers) Ltd. cutlery manufacturers. Tuppie

I found these two listings in the directories at http://www.sheffieldindexers.com Johnson, Christopher (, manufacturer). Residing at Canklow House, in 1862. Recorded in: Drake's Rotherham & District Directory - 1862. Johnson, Christopher and Henry (, merchants' clerks). Residing at Shrewsbury Road, in 1833. Recorded in: Whites History & Directory of Sheffield - 1833.

You could also try. http://www.sheffieldindexers.com loads of parish records, school admissions, directories and a transcription of City Rd burials from 1881 to 1946.They are now transcribing Burngreave burial registers. OR http://www.sheffieldfhs.org.uk Tuppie