Shipping Containers Coming To Fargate

[francypants 446]

21 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said:

What's your grand  plan then?    Pretty obvious that the council can't force tenants into buildings they don't own. It's obvious the council can't force building owners to lower rent or order they give freebies. The council can't force a change of use or ownership of a privately owned premises overnight without lengthy legal and public consultation process.

 

The business of traditional bricks and mortar retail is in decline globally. It is not only affecting discount big box stores but even the premium end ones. Branches are closing left right and centre with many companies not surviving the obvious devastation caused by the pandemic.

 

Us consumers are fickle beings, with our tastes, trends and fashions turning on a dime. 

 

To those who actually bother to walk around with their eyes open  instead of sitting at home moaning about what they think and presume  from behind a computer,  it is clear there is a increase in popularity of small, independent, locally made or vintage, higher quality, quirky traders operating out of more unusual types of premises. Big buzzwords in reclaiming, reusing, and recycling former buildings for an alternative purpose to keep longevity.  Massive increases in social conscience and concerns about where things are manufactured or how or the waste.  Massive increases in the numbers of people living closer to city centres again, more socialising, entirely different work patterns due to the shifts to hybrid or remote working arrangements.

 

Similar types of schemes have had success elsewhere and are great facilities to allow for small Independent Traders to get their business to the masses without the exorbitant costs of prime real estate. Such schemes are extremely popular around the world has been shown in other major cities. New York, Manchester, Bristol and London being a few off the top of my head.  We even have a earlier adopter in our city anyway, with Krykl still keeping going down at Shalesmoor.  

 

Some people really need to grow up and realise that the days of Cockaynes, Walsh's, Pauldens and Ole In't Road are long gone.   The purpose of the city centre has completely evolved, there is far more residential community and social aspects which go far beyond just shopping.

 

The council are trying to bring something which is going to to bring football back to Fargate and keep it alive beyond 5p.m. as this new unit is going to be open well after the 'traditional' shop closing time. Something I certainly welcome.

 

Honestly, its like people want it to fail so they can keep wallowing in their misery and slagging off the council.  Jesus I'm not exactly their cheerleader of many of their decisions but this is certainly not one for criticism.

I don't think that would work very well.      😂

[Mr Bloke 1,445]

2 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said:

But but but Cole Brothers!

 

Suspect you meant "footfall" btw.

Hmmm...

 

I think you're giving SCC a bit too much credit there, Mr Risen!

[HeHasRisen 3,412]

I mean that was a great post tbh, sums the situation up rather well, despite the amusing typo.

[forgeman 18]

I thought there was a shortage of shipping containers to move goods around the world. Obviously not

[ECCOnoob 1,053]

3 hours ago, HeHasRisen said:

But but but Cole Brothers!

 

Suspect you meant "footfall" btw.

** haha. Yeah well spotted.  Serves me right for using voice recognition.

 

Urban football might still be a crowd pleaser..... First one to score a goal through the lift doors of Marks & Spencer,  foul play in the fitting rooms of H&M, bad tackles on display in the middle of Greggs etc....

[Mr Bloke 1,445]

14 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said:

** haha. Yeah well spotted.  Serves me right for using voice recognition.

 

Urban football might still be a crowd pleaser..... First one to score a goal through the lift doors of Marks & Spencer,  foul play in the fitting rooms of H&M, bad tackles on display in the middle of Greggs etc....

Hmmm...

And a few red cards for the SCC first team players...

[hackey lad 3,995]

How long are these here for ?

[hauxwell 244]

5 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

What's your grand  plan then?    Pretty obvious that the council can't force tenants into buildings they don't own. It's obvious the council can't force building owners to lower rent or order they give freebies. The council can't force a change of use or ownership of a privately owned premises overnight without lengthy legal and public consultation process.

 

The business of traditional bricks and mortar retail is in decline globally. It is not only affecting discount big box stores but even the premium end ones. Branches are closing left right and centre with many companies not surviving the obvious devastation caused by the pandemic.

 

Us consumers are fickle beings, with our tastes, trends and fashions turning on a dime. 

 

To those who actually bother to walk around with their eyes open  instead of sitting at home moaning about what they think and presume  from behind a computer,  it is clear there is a increase in popularity of small, independent, locally made or vintage, higher quality, quirky traders operating out of more unusual types of premises. Big buzzwords in reclaiming, reusing, and recycling former buildings for an alternative purpose to keep longevity.  Massive increases in social conscience and concerns about where things are manufactured or how or the waste.  Massive increases in the numbers of people living closer to city centres again, more socialising, entirely different work patterns due to the shifts to hybrid or remote working arrangements.

 

Similar types of schemes have had success elsewhere and are great facilities to allow for small Independent Traders to get their business to the masses without the exorbitant costs of prime real estate. Such schemes are extremely popular around the world has been shown in other major cities. New York, Manchester, Bristol and London being a few off the top of my head.  We even have a earlier adopter in our city anyway, with Krykl still keeping going down at Shalesmoor.  

 

Some people really need to grow up and realise that the days of Cockaynes, Walsh's, Pauldens and Ole In't Road are long gone.   The purpose of the city centre has completely evolved, there is far more residential community and social aspects which go far beyond just shopping.

 

The council are trying to bring something which is going to to bring football back to Fargate and keep it alive beyond 5p.m. as this new unit is going to be open well after the 'traditional' shop closing time. Something I certainly welcome.

 

Honestly, its like people want it to fail so they can keep wallowing in their misery and slagging off the council.  Jesus I'm not exactly their cheerleader of many of their decisions but this is certainly not one for criticism.

We have the Stack up here in Newcastle built with containers.  It  has a fantastic atmosphere and it’s busy particularly at weekends when there is live music.  It is going to close but it was only meant to be a short term thing until the council decided what to do with the land after they demolished a building.  

 

It didn’t take long to build the stack, I would say no more than six weeks.  If Sheffield Council get it right like the one in Newcastle it might just work.

 

https://www.clevelandcontainers.co.uk/news-and-blog/stack-is-finally-open

 

[Mister M 1,632]

In fairness to the council, a lot of their regeneration schemes for the city centre have certainly been improvements on what went before.

Winter Gardens and Peace Gardens a vast improvement. The Moor a vast improvement. The tram service a vast improvement. Charter Square a vast improvement. The area outside the train station a vast improvement. Fitzallen Square a vast improvement.

I bet the people moaning on here about how crap Sheffield City Centre is will be exactly the same ones who shop online and go to Meadowhall instead. Blame yourselves rather than the council.

Edited June 3, 2022 by Mister M

[Anna B 1,417]

I'm all for the council doing anything it can to keep the city alive and kicking, and hope that Sheffield people will support it's endeavours. 

I don't think people recognise the magnitude of the difficulties the council is having to deal with, and needs to get behind it. 

 

From the middle ages onwards this country has had markets and fairs that over the years morphed into the shops and city/town centre shopping we know today. Except for the first time in history, we don't have it any more, it's changed almost overnight, and now we want to shop online with products picked from massive warehouses and delivered to our doors. Whether this is a passing phase or not, we have yet to see, but it really is a major shift in habits which has multiple knock on effects and all sorts of ramifications that have to be sorted and dealt with.

 

So please, let's get behind our council (and therefore our city) and appreciate that it's doing it's best, and try working together to keep Sheffield vibrant and on the map.

[hackey lad 3,995]

47 minutes ago, Anna B said:

I'm all for the council doing anything it can to keep the city alive and kicking, and hope that Sheffield people will support it's endeavours. 

I don't think people recognise the magnitude of the difficulties the council is having to deal with, and needs to get behind it. 

 

From the middle ages onwards this country has had markets and fairs that over the years morphed into the shops and city/town centre shopping we know today. Except for the first time in history, we don't have it any more, it's changed almost overnight, and now we want to shop online with products picked from massive warehouses and delivered to our doors. Whether this is a passing phase or not, we have yet to see, but it really is a major shift in habits which has multiple knock on effects and all sorts of ramifications that have to be sorted and dealt with.

 

So please, let's get behind our council (and therefore our city) and appreciate that it's doing it's best, and try working together to keep Sheffield vibrant and on the map.

All for getting behind this City but this council you love ( Labour) are a big part of where we are now 

[Fredderick 33]

Standing for election then Hackney Lad?  Easier to complain than to try and do anything about it