The Joker   10 #1453 Posted October 7, 2018 This demonstrates a total lack of understanding of why people are homeless and/or rough sleeping in the first place.  As the referendum showed, people want slogans, not solutions ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ECCOnoob   1,052 #1454 Posted October 7, 2018 Work Elsewhere? Shop Elsewhere? Eat/Drink Elsewhere? That is what is happening and the situation will only get worse.  If it wasn't for the students - Sheffield City Centre would be a complete ghost town and if the shootings and stabbings continue then in 5/10 years time the student population will probably drop. Something has to be done about the tramps, street drinkers and spice heads. It is total disgrace especially on West Street near Tesco.  Really?  Wow all those thousands of workers, residents, commuters, shoppers, business visitors and tourists I see wandering around every day must be a mirage.  On the last figures students from both Hallam and UOS make up just over 61k out of the 575k city population. What are the other 90% doing? Does not one single one of them live or work or visit the city?  Enough with these endless dramatics and exagerations.  YES we have a collection of undesirables on the streets. So does every other major town and city in the country. YES people dont like to see them there. But they felt exactly the same way about the destitution on the streets 20, 50, 100 years ago.  Some people need to grow up. Its a problem that needs reducing but its never going to go away. Public streets are just that. Open and accessible to ALL members of the public - even the less desirable ones.  The city centre streets are not some private shopping mall that can be shuttered off and security patrolled. If it was turned into that, you can imagine the outcry from the do gooders and charity sector.  Landlords cant even put anti-vagrant devices on their OWN private property without backlash from the masses.  https://www.indy100.com/article/disturbing-anti-homeless-architecture-ryan-brown-twitter-8189081 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/06/council-removes-anti-homeless-bars-benches-public-backlash/ https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/homelessness-spikes-outside-london-flats-spark-outrage-on-twitter-9506390.html  You cannot wave a magic wand to make these problems go away. Pathetic over exagerated statements like yours coupled with this prissy attitude from some people about being too scrared to go out walking around on streets that thousands of others deem perfectly safe, isnt going to help anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
prince al   178 #1455 Posted October 7, 2018 Apparently farmers are struggling to recruit crop pickers, bus the poor souls out to Lincolnshire. Plenty of fresh air and no distractions to keep them occupied. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
lesserthan1 Â Â 10 #1456 Posted October 7, 2018 This demonstrates a total lack of understanding of why people are homeless and/or rough sleeping in the first place. Â You're right, it's not their fault. Must be something to do with society. These people clearly have some issues that mean they've got to sit outside asking for money while drinking Skol rather than getting help from any of the well-funded agencies and charities around town. They should stay where they are, the little darlings, while we workers shower them with benefits and pay for their housing. Yes this all seems very unfair on them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M Â Â 1,628 #1457 Posted October 7, 2018 You're right, it's not their fault. Must be something to do with society. These people clearly have some issues that mean they've got to sit outside asking for money while drinking Skol rather than getting help from any of the well-funded agencies and charities around town. They should stay where they are, the little darlings, while we workers shower them with benefits and pay for their housing. Yes this all seems very unfair on them. Â Very unpleasant. You might end up homeless one day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Martin C Â Â 85 #1458 Posted October 7, 2018 You're right, it's not their fault. Must be something to do with society. These people clearly have some issues that mean they've got to sit outside asking for money while drinking Skol rather than getting help from any of the well-funded agencies and charities around town. They should stay where they are, the little darlings, while we workers shower them with benefits and pay for their housing. Yes this all seems very unfair on them. Â Indeed. Well said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #1459 Posted October 7, 2018 You're right, it's not their fault. Must be something to do with society. These people clearly have some issues that mean they've got to sit outside asking for money while drinking Skol rather than getting help from any of the well-funded agencies and charities around town. They should stay where they are, the little darlings, while we workers shower them with benefits and pay for their housing. Yes this all seems very unfair on them.  I think your prejudice might be showing a little, just around the edges...  ---------- Post added 07-10-2018 at 19:43 ----------  If you can be bothered to do some reading  http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7698/CBP-7698.pdf  http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN02007/SN02007.pdf  https://blog.crisis.org.uk/media/236816/the_hidden_truth_about_homelessness_es.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
leviathan13 Â Â 350 #1460 Posted October 7, 2018 Very unpleasant. You might end up homeless one day. Â But many of them aren't homeless. Many of them have social housing tenancies, with their rent being funded by other people. Â They also have support services that they can turn to for help, but refuse to engage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Halibut   12 #1461 Posted October 8, 2018 But many of them aren't homeless. Many of them have social housing tenancies, with their rent being funded by other people. They also have support services that they can turn to for help, but refuse to engage.  Yay, when all else fails, let's play a game of blame the victim! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
dutch   68 #1462 Posted October 8, 2018 I see begging in england not just on the streets today. It is part of its ancient culture and will be there as long as that culture supports it. The problem of homelessness is not just on the streets, the whole social system in england has developed to be the way it is.  Getting the issue of homelessness and beggars solved would need such big shocking changes people are not ready for it today. England has had homelessness for hundreds of years, it is rooted in the society the way it is today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
woodmally   10 #1463 Posted October 8, 2018 Yay, when all else fails, let's play a game of blame the victim!  But this is true. Many charities are saying the same that if you give money to them they wont engage with services and will continue with in their words their "chaotic lives".  One guy known locally as Honda (I dont know if that was his real name) had accomodation yet sadly died on the streets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
leviathan13 Â Â 350 #1464 Posted October 8, 2018 Yay, when all else fails, let's play a game of blame the victim! Â And your solution is.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...