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It amazes me how short the life of some buildings are in Sheffield. They seem to be pulled down and replaced every 5 minutes. Surely this is a huge waste of money?

 

Victorian buildings were built to last, and often expensively beautiful and ornate. The modern stuff seems gimmicky, shoddy and almost disposable, (think Town Hall 'eggboxes.')

Strong, well built buildings can be refurbished and adapted if they are built with longevity in mind. 

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On 26/04/2024 at 06:03, Anna B said:

It amazes me how short the life of some buildings are in Sheffield. They seem to be pulled down and replaced every 5 minutes. Surely this is a huge waste of money?

 

Victorian buildings were built to last, and often expensively beautiful and ornate. The modern stuff seems gimmicky, shoddy and almost disposable, (think Town Hall 'eggboxes.')

Strong, well built buildings can be refurbished and adapted if they are built with longevity in mind. 

My bold. 

 

Agree with you.  You only have to look at the frieze around the Town Hall.  Basically the history of what Sheffield was built on.   I saw something similar on a building abroad once, can't remember where but when they cleaned up the building, they decided to colour / tint their frieze, so that it stood out from the other stone work.  It looked absolutely fantastic.   Imagine that round our Town Hall. 

 

Sadly, you won't get buildings like those in the Victorian era again.  Many of those were built as a show of wealth with all the additional fancy work.  Today buildings are built mainly for form, function & sustainability so basically you end up with generic boxes unless some wants to throw massive amounts of cash on a landmark building. 

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56 minutes ago, Baron99 said:

 

Sadly, you won't get buildings like those in the Victorian era again.  Many of those were built as a show of wealth with all the additional fancy work.  Today buildings are built mainly for form, function & sustainability so basically you end up with generic boxes unless some wants to throw massive amounts of cash on a landmark building. 

Good points.   But let's not forget, they were also built on the back of slave labour or poverty wages. They were built at a time when public opinion and perception had no matter. Built at a time when there was no keyboard warriors, twitterati and packs of rabid journalists poised ready to belittle, attack and critique the 'greed' 'waste' and 'disgraceful excess' on all and everything that got put on the drawing board.  

 

They were built at a time when developers and architects didn't have to worry about trivial things like planning regulations or blowing up someone's land to build or throwing out 100 families of the homes without compensation. 

 

These days if the council built so much as an extension, everyone screams about how much or accuses them of wasting money or crying that taxpayer money be better spent on the nurses and carers. Look at the state of things like HS2 or our own HOTC2.   Barely a spade hit the ground before the deluge of protests and backlash and criticism and put downs...

 

We get soulless glass covered boxes because everything now has to be built to a cost, built neutrally without offending or upsetting, built with a efficiency and economy, built environmentally so the local birdies and squirrels don't get hurt.   It has to be built from ground up within 1001 parameters and restrictions of which aesthetics are usually way way way down the list.  

 

Even if one of them does dare to be even remotely creative it doesn't take long for the armchair architects and story hungry local rags to start laying into them.

 

That is the unfortunate reality.

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2 hours ago, Lionel Richtea said:

Ground floor / basement - indoor go cart track

1st floor - laserquest

2nd floor - arcade games and puffagrabba machines.

3rd floor - bowling alley 

 

Done.

The second and first floor ideas pretty much exists about 50 yards away.

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20 hours ago, SheffieldForum said:

The second and first floor ideas pretty much exists about 50 yards away.

The 3rd floor idea also exists close by. 

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