Mister M Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 “I’ve given you the most important metric – never mind life expectancy, never mind cancer outcomes – look at wage growth.” Boris Johnson condemned for saying ‘never mind’ about cancer outcomes | The Independent Scummy thing to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviathan13 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 3 hours ago, CaptainSwing said: To be fair, you and I were talking about education, not intelligence - it's notorious that the two don't necessarily go together. Nick Griffin also went to Cambridge. David Cameron had the most expensive education money can buy and got a first in PPE, even being described by his tutor as one of the ablest students he'd ever had! As for Diane Abbott, it seems clear that people who criticize her on the grounds of intelligence first decide that they don't like her for reasons of racism (and possibly also misogyny etc.), and then start looking for examples. [Forum members excepted of course.] Abbott is proof that you can be educated and intelligent, but still be an idiot. Nothing to do with race and sex/gender... everything to do with her having idiotic views... and I'm a Labour voter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, leviathan13 said: Abbott is proof that you can be educated and intelligent, but still be an idiot. Nothing to do with race and sex/gender... everything to do with her having idiotic views... and I'm a Labour voter! I put some of her errors down to ill health, old age(68) or the media making it appear worse. Johnson has said some hilarious things, but people just laugh them off, because he is a clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 I watched the speech by Starmer, no passion at all, it was just like an audition for a part in a play and he read it very badly, his forced smile at the end of it was just that a forced smile. The Labour Party needs a leader who’s actually gone through the same life experience as the working class people that the Labour Party was supposed to protect but they’ve sadly lost their way, Dennis Skinner, Joe Ashton where as passionate as you could get when fighting for the down trodden of this country, I’d have more respect for a miner speaking in the chamber in all his dirt that the well suited leader we have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, lazarus said: I watched the speech by Starmer, no passion at all, it was just like an audition for a part in a play and he read it very badly, his forced smile at the end of it was just that a forced smile. The Labour Party needs a leader who’s actually gone through the same life experience as the working class people that the Labour Party was supposed to protect but they’ve sadly lost their way, Dennis Skinner, Joe Ashton where as passionate as you could get when fighting for the down trodden of this country, I’d have more respect for a miner speaking in the chamber in all his dirt that the well suited leader we have now. Angela Rayner is just such a person. Do you want her as leader? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttsie Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 14 hours ago, CaptainSwing said: To be fair, you and I were talking about education, not intelligence - it's notorious that the two don't necessarily go together. Nick Griffin also went to Cambridge. David Cameron had the most expensive education money can buy and got a first in PPE, even being described by his tutor as one of the ablest students he'd ever had! As for Diane Abbott, it seems clear that people who criticize her on the grounds of intelligence first decide that they don't like her for reasons of racism (and possibly also misogyny etc.), and then start looking for examples. [Forum members excepted of course.] Did the great socialist Diane send her children to private education if so how does that equate to socialist beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttsie Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) I liked Angela Raynor , thought she was leader material , until her outburst . She has let the working class down by going to stereotype its the last thing we need in this day and age . Starmer is also not leadership material , We need a strong articulate character but no one seems to fit the bill. The tories just breed them by sending the candidates to pubic schools where they are groomed to rule the plebs . Edited October 3, 2021 by cuttsie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Anna B said: Angela Rayner is just such a person. Do you want her as leader? No I don’t like her either, it seems as soon as they gain their M.P. status they look down on the working class, the very people they represent, look at Diane Abbot, her episode on a journey drinking a can of beer, when challenged her reply was “ do you know who I am?”, they seem to forget who they actually are, they are our representatives in parliament but they soon forget the poor, the disabled, the pensioners . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttsie Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 25 minutes ago, lazarus said: No I don’t like her either, it seems as soon as they gain their M.P. status they look down on the working class, the very people they represent, look at Diane Abbot, her episode on a journey drinking a can of beer, when challenged her reply was “ do you know who I am?”, they seem to forget who they actually are, they are our representatives in parliament but they soon forget the poor, the disabled, the pensioners . The expenses soon catch the out , Its Animal farm ever time . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 2 hours ago, cuttsie said: I liked Angela Raynor , thought she was leader material , until her outburst . She has let the working class down by going to stereotype its the last thing we need in this day and age . Starmer is also not leadership material , We need a strong articulate character but no one seems to fit the bill. The tories just breed them by sending the candidates to pubic schools where they are groomed to rule the plebs . What evidence do you have that public schools create good leaders? I have evidence that they create poor leaders, first example Boris Johnson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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