melthebell   872 #337 Posted January 10, 2022 17 hours ago, The Joker said: I fail to see the relevance, but I must say they're wearing nice outfits, very similar to the Chubby Brown protestors that made fools of themselves in the city centre a couple of months back.        lol not many there is that how many he gets in an audience these days? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
harvey19 Â Â 541 #338 Posted January 10, 2022 4 hours ago, Delbow said: That's not the only conclusion. Mayor Marvin Rees is on record as saying he didn't want to make it a big issue because he didn't want to lose 'political capital' over the issue. I'm not entirely sure what he meant by that, but I'm guessing he didn't want to **** certain people off so much that it would get in the way of other things he wanted to achieve. He has however said he is glad the statue is gone. Just to add another variant to this story. What if the statue had fallen on someone's head and killed them whilst it was being toppled without consent whilst the police were watching ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Caswall   7 #339 Posted January 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, harvey19 said: Just to add another variant to this story. What if the statue had fallen on someone's head and killed them whilst it was being toppled without consent whilst the police were watching ? As happened to one poor little poppet in Virginia:  https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/confederate-monument-virginia-protests-a9561981.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Delbow   773 #340 Posted January 10, 2022 23 minutes ago, harvey19 said: Just to add another variant to this story. What if the statue had fallen on someone's head and killed them whilst it was being toppled without consent whilst the police were watching ? That's an extreme level of "what if..?" What if you went out and got hit by a car? Don't go outside! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Caswall   7 #341 Posted January 10, 2022 Just now, Delbow said: That's an extreme level of "what if..?" What if you went out and got hit by a car? Don't go outside! Hardly so when exactly that happened to a protesting idiot while vandalising a statue in the States. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
harvey19 Â Â 541 #342 Posted January 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, Delbow said: That's an extreme level of "what if..?" What if you went out and got hit by a car? Don't go outside! More of a Why Didn't the police intervene. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
sheffbag   236 #343 Posted January 13, 2022 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-59972806  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Delbow   773 #344 Posted January 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, sheffbag said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-59972806  Priti Patel would lock this man up for ten years. Ten years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jack Grey   1,602 #345 Posted January 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, Delbow said: Priti Patel would lock this man up for ten years. Ten years. Should we demolish all the buildings in Germany that was built by the Nazis? 🤔 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   872 #346 Posted January 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, Jack Grey said: Should we demolish all the buildings in Germany that was built by the Nazis? 🤔 Back to the link, are you Happy to have statues created by pedophiles out in the open? Made by a man who gleefully wrote about what he did to his own daughters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jack Grey   1,602 #347 Posted January 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, melthebell said:  Back to the link, are you Happy to have statues created by pedophiles out in the open? Made by a man who gleefully wrote about what he did to his own daughters You didnt answer my question  But i'll answer yours.....  I dont know the history of the statue or the person who created it  But the option of researching the subject and then making an informed decision has now been taken away from me by an idiot with a hammer and chisel  Who gives him the right to destroy the statue? Its not his property  If i live next door to you and i dont like your new patio extension does that give me the right to climb over your fence and pull it down?........No it does not  The catholic church is responsible for some unspeakable crimes...does that give me the right to burn down Sheffield cathedral?..........No it does not  We cant just allow anyone to destroy history on a whim.....we'd have nothing left    Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Waldo   96 #348 Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, melthebell said: Back to the link, are you Happy to have statues created by pedophiles out in the open? Made by a man who gleefully wrote about what he did to his own daughters Not happy of course.  Also not happy that Joe Bloggs can come along and do criminal damage on a statue and get away with it.  There really (urgently, considering recent events) needs to be a proper legal process, whereby we democratically decide if to remove statues (or other works) that some consider offensive. I’m not sure exactly how that would work, but there needs to be some legal route for this.  A climate where anyone can come along and destroy anything they consider offensive, and get away with breaking the law, is not a good place to be. Edited January 13, 2022 by Waldo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...