The Joker   10 #3577 Posted December 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Mister Gee said: This mob don’t know the meaning of the word, absolutely appalling what they’ve done to this country. It's worth reminding people that Shagger Boris hand-picked the mob not to due to their talent, but for their evangelical support of Brexit.  And to the surprise of absolutely nobody, they couldn't even make a success of that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister Gee   825 #3578 Posted December 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Joker said: It's worth reminding people that Shagger Boris hand-picked the mob not to due to their talent, but for their evangelical support of Brexit.  And to the surprise of absolutely nobody, they couldn't even make a success of that. Those chickens are coming home to roost in style. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus   540 #3579 Posted December 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, Mister Gee said: Those chickens are coming home to roost in style. Surely 'those chickens are fleeing the coop in panic' would be more accurate. 🙂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RJRB   688 #3580 Posted December 18, 2021 See Brexit thread..... Lord Frost hands in his notice. Will Liam Fox step into the breach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister Gee   825 #3581 Posted December 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, altus said: Surely 'those chickens are fleeing the coop in panic' would be more accurate. 🙂 You’ve a point there chicken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister Gee   825 #3582 Posted December 18, 2021 Lots of rats still on the ship this evening then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister Gee   825 #3583 Posted December 18, 2021 (edited) ….    Edited December 19, 2021 by Mister Gee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus   540 #3584 Posted December 18, 2021 20 minutes ago, Mister Gee said: Lots of rats still on the ship this evening then? Having a leadership election whilst a new wave of covid hits might be seen as indulgent. Better to wait until afterwards so the consequences can be blamed on Boris rather than a new leader. Letting the effects of increasing inflation and various other policies start to hit whilst Boris is still leader so it can be blamed on him is also convenient. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M   1,625 #3585 Posted December 19, 2021 2 hours ago, West 77 said: Okay so Labour voters were protesting as well and voted for the Lib Dems. Why didn't Labour voters support their own party? Labour winning the seat would have meant the Labour party weren't no hopers. Possibly because voters in that constituency felt that the best way of not getting the Tory candidate was voting Liberal Democrat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
harvey19   541 #3586 Posted December 19, 2021 2 hours ago, West 77 said: Okay so Labour voters were protesting as well and voted for the Lib Dems. Why didn't Labour voters support their own party? Labour winning the seat would have meant the Labour party weren't no hopers. I think it proves that Labour have lost their traditional power base. Saying traditional Labour supporters voted for the Lib Dems as a tactical move seems far fetched to me when the Labour Party is trying to change it's image of a year ago and would have expected traditional Labour voters to have supported this change by voting for it at the election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus   540 #3587 Posted December 19, 2021 2 hours ago, harvey19 said: I think it proves that Labour have lost their traditional power base. Saying traditional Labour supporters voted for the Lib Dems as a tactical move seems far fetched to me when the Labour Party is trying to change it's image of a year ago and would have expected traditional Labour voters to have supported this change by voting for it at the election. Labour never had any sort of power base in a constituency that has voted Tory for over 200 years. At the last election, the Labour Party were still in "it's better to be idealistic out of power" mode rather than "it's worth compromising to gain power" mode. The Tories have always taken the latter view.  Two things about the North Shropshire vote will worry the Conservatives.  Progressive parties cooperating to defeat the Conservative candidate. The most remain party's candidate winning in such a pro-brexit constituency means brexit is no longer the election winning issue the Conservatives have relied on.  Let's face it, the country wants brexit really done. No further delays to implementing new customs rules because we are still not ready to implement them. Get the NI/RoI border issues sorted out - the public aren't interested in the ideologically pure brexit that the brextremeists want, they just want it sorted. If Frost negotiated a deal that he new wouldn't work just to get it over the line by an arbitrary deadline that's tough. The government should treat it as a lesson to not play games in international negotiations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister Gee   825 #3588 Posted December 19, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-59712424  Fingers crossed for another by-election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...