The Conservative Party - Part Two.

[Caswall 7]

On 14/12/2021 at 18:31, Anna B said:

No, he is a Socialist, plain and simple. He has said so many times.

His policies are Socialist, his actions are Socialist. 

He lives by his socialist principles, always has.

He lives a simple socialist life without airs and graces.

The worst his ex-wife could find to say about him was he likes to eat cold baked beans out of a tin.

Unlike the Tories, his way of relaxing is to potter about on his allotment, not by snorting cocaine...

He is a Socialist

Yes he is.  And like Brown and Milliband, he's a Marxist socialist. 

 

He's also a hypocritical multi-millionaire with property and pension portfolios that would seem like fortunes to most of his naïve voters. 

He was born from middle class privilege, raised in a 5 bedroom country manor house, and had a privileged education  - as did at least one of his sons. 

 

His ex-wife Jane Chapman had plenty more to say than the fact that she had an empty joyless marriage, with the beans you mention, in her book:  "A Dangerous Hero: Corbyn’s Ruthless Plot for Power" .

 

Or should we focus more on third wife Laura Alvarez, the multi-millionairess whose firm came under scrutiny amid reports her coffee was produced by farmers in Mexico’s poorest state, who earned 93p for each 500g bag which was then sold here for £10?

 

Damn it must be hard being a socialist, when it is simply impossible not to be a hypocrite.

[The Joker 10]

1 minute ago, Caswall said:

He's also a hypocritical multi-millionaire with property and pension portfolios that would seem like fortunes to most of his naïve voters. 

He was born from middle class privilege, raised in a 5 bedroom country manor house, and had a privileged education  - as did at least one of his sons. 

So who should us hard-working Working Classes vote for then?

 

Shagger Boris, son of wifebeater Stanley?  Now there's a real Man of the People, eh?

 

How about instead of telling me who not to vote for, why not make it real simple and tell which politician deserves the working class vote.

 

In single syllable words too, please.

[hackey lad 3,937]

Tiresome ( sorry two syllables)

[Mister M 1,605]

I have to laugh, when Sir Simon Case was appointed as the man to investigate all the parties allegedly held by Ministers, we had a series of Conservative MPs on the radio, droning on about "how he was the right sort of person to investigate this sort of thing".

Now I know why

Christmas parties were held twice in Cabinet Secretary Simon Case's OWN offices, sources say | Daily Mail Online

Top civil servant investigating Downing Street party claims ‘attended Christmas drinks’ | The Independent

Edited December 17, 2021 by Mister M

[altus 534]

13 minutes ago, West 77 said:

It's a worse result for Labour because they need to win seats like this at by elections if they have any chance of competing at the next general election.

It really isn't. Labour put little effort into campaigning for this seat to give the LibDems the best chance of winning. If the main progressive parties take the same approach, cooperating to ensure a progressive party wins rather than splitting the progressive vote and letting the Tories win, nationally at the next general election the Conservatives will be in real trouble.

[Mister M 1,605]

18 minutes ago, Caswall said:

Yes he is.  And like Brown and Milliband, he's a Marxist socialist. 

 

He's also a hypocritical multi-millionaire with property and pension portfolios that would seem like fortunes to most of his naïve voters. 

He was born from middle class privilege, raised in a 5 bedroom country manor house, and had a privileged education  - as did at least one of his sons. 

 

His ex-wife Jane Chapman had plenty more to say than the fact that she had an empty joyless marriage, with the beans you mention, in her book:  "A Dangerous Hero: Corbyn’s Ruthless Plot for Power" .

 

Or should we focus more on third wife Laura Alvarez, the multi-millionairess whose firm came under scrutiny amid reports her coffee was produced by farmers in Mexico’s poorest state, who earned 93p for each 500g bag which was then sold here for £10?

 

Damn it must be hard being a socialist, when it is simply impossible not to be a hypocrite.

Gordon Brown Marxist Socialist.

You must be further to the right that General Pinochet and Margaret Thatcher combined if you view Gordon Brown as a Marxist. Still it takes all sorts

Mind you given how much of a pile of poo the Tories are in now, I can understand why you want to talk about Labour

Edited December 17, 2021 by Mister M

[The Joker 10]

15 minutes ago, hackey lad said:

Tiresome ( sorry two syllables)

Could you narrow it down please?  Most Tory politicians bore me to tears

[Mister Gee 811]

12 minutes ago, Mister M said:

Gordon Brown Marxist Socialist.

You must be further to the right that General Pinochet and Margaret Thatcher combined if you view Gordon Brown as a Marxist. Still it takes all sorts

Mind you given how much of a pile of poo the Tories are in now, I can understand why you want to talk about Labour

He does seem a bit obsessed but let’s cut him some slack, he’s a newbie on here and probably hasn’t yet got the hang of posting on the relevant thread.

[Mister M 1,605]

3 minutes ago, Mister Gee said:

He does seem a bit obsessed but let’s cut him some slack, he’s a newbie on here and probably hasn’t yet got the hang of posting on the relevant thread.

Yes I think he must be a newbie round here. Bless

[El Cid 212]

39 minutes ago, West 77 said:

It's a worse result for Labour because they need to win seats like this at by elections if they have any chance of competing at the next general election.

This was a protest vote about Boris Johnsons ineptitude and jobs for the boys.

Labour winning this seat would mean the Tories were no hopers.

[hackey lad 3,937]

1 minute ago, El Cid said:

This was a protest vote about Boris Johnsons ineptitude and jobs for the boys.

Labour winning this seat would mean the Tories were no hopers.

But …

[Caswall 7]

33 minutes ago, The Joker said:

So who should us hard-working Working Classes vote for then?

 

Shagger Boris, son of wifebeater Stanley?  Now there's a real Man of the People, eh?

 

How about instead of telling me who not to vote for, why not make it real simple and tell which politician deserves the working class vote.

 

In single syllable words too, please.

The sad aspect of this is that you feel the need to segregate politics as a class issue.  That was never the case until the Labour Party was formed and strove to turn party politics into a 'them 'n us' conflict.

 

Now that we have 21st-century employment legislation and working conditions, the role of the unions (and the Labour Party at their head) is no more.  Labour struggles bitterly to justify its own existence by perpetuating the myth of there being a poor down-trodden underclass on one side and overly-privileged  ‘carriage folk’ living in stately homes on the other.

 

We could, and I might suggest should, revert to the simpler choices available before Labour - Liberal or Conservative.  Both being parties of all classes, divided in their ethos only by the liberal tendency to embrace change, and the conservative tendency to prefer caution and tradition.

 

Less emotive, less bitter - it would be more pleasant for all.