Fudbeer   12 #361 Posted January 16, 2019 Agree Corbyn has not handled this well at all.He has also not come over well in the house. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
andyofborg   11 #362 Posted January 16, 2019 18 minutes ago, OPEN BORDERS said: So, Corbyn gets invited by May to have a chat how they can progress with Brexit. Corbyn basically says, not until a 'no deal' is took off the table.  WHAT ?  How stupid is that man ? Why take away the main thing you have as a bargaining chip.  i'm not entirely sure how threatening to shoot yourself in the head is a bargaining chip.   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tzijlstra   11 #363 Posted January 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, andyofborg said: i'm not entirely sure how threatening to shoot yourself in the head is a bargaining chip.   That isn't what he did, he essentially used it to torpedo a second referendum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol   610 #364 Posted January 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, andyofborg said: i'm not entirely sure how threatening to shoot yourself in the head is a bargaining chip.   Shooting yourself in the head / foot etc would  appear to be a tactic favoured by both May and the brexiteers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Lockdoctor   10 #365 Posted January 16, 2019 50 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said: In a negotiation of equals (or near equals) yes, I would agree.  However, once we triggered Article 50 we ceased to have any real bargaining power. What we are asking of the EU is unreasonable and even the most benign of EU negotiators will not undermine the organisation's own rules to facilitate the wishes of a leaving member.  Yes, a no deal exit will hurt the EU but it will survive. The same can't be said of the UK. A no deal Brexit will mean the UK are in a much better position to negotiate regarding future arrangements with the EU on 30th March than we are at the moment. 1 hour ago, tinfoilhat said: **** me we cant even agree how to pronounce it now.  May survives a no-confidence vote. "What a surprise" said absolutely nobody. Anyway, at least we wasted another day so that's a good thing. Agreed it was a day wasted. We all knew the result last night when the DUP confirmed they would be supporting the Government. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol   610 #366 Posted January 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said: A no deal Brexit will mean the UK are in a much better position to negotiate regarding future arrangements with the EU on 30th March than we are at the moment.  Really? Do explain how. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Penistone999   10 #367 Posted January 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:   It’s good to see brexiteers unite under one banner.  May is a remainer and has to go ,so a Brexiteer can take over and get this job done. May dosnt want to leave the EU and should never have been made PM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tzijlstra   11 #368 Posted January 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Longcol said: Really? Do explain how. Yes Lockdoctor, please do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ANGELFIRE1   10 #369 Posted January 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Penistone999 said:  May is a remainer and has to go ,so a Brexiteer can take over and get this job done. May dosnt want to leave the EU and should never have been made PM. Some say it was devised to ensure that Brexit failed. The more this debacle continues, I think it might have been.  Angel1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
I1L2T3   10 #370 Posted January 16, 2019 51 minutes ago, OPEN BORDERS said: So, Corbyn gets invited by May to have a chat how they can progress with Brexit. Corbyn basically says, not until a 'no deal' is took off the table.  WHAT ?  How stupid is that man ? Why take away the main thing you have as a bargaining chip.  Because it’s not a bargaining chip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RJRB   688 #371 Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Penistone999 said:  May is a remainer and has to go ,so a Brexiteer can take over and get this job done. May dosnt want to leave the EU and should never have been made PM. Totally agree . Let a Brexiteer confirm a Brexit Deal that is backed by the majority of that camp and can be negotiated or otherwise. In the unlikely event that May can cobble something together I don’t want there to be any possibility for the  Brexiteers to have a Remainer to blame when the reality hits home.  So once again Penistone and Angel,who do you nominate as that leader. Edited January 16, 2019 by RJRB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
OPEN BORDERS   10 #372 Posted January 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, I1L2T3 said: Because it’s not a bargaining chip. Please enlighten me as to why its not. They would hate us to leave without giving them 39 Billion Hate us to leave and make our own trade deals and be successful Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...