cuttsie 1,091 #805 Posted January 11, 2022 5 hours ago, trastrick said: For the entire history of mankind the strong have dominated the weak. Rise up and revolt against them with superior numbers, and you'll be incited and led by the next generation of the ever opportunistic power hungry class. Those symbols of power, uniforms, palaces and mansions, with the accompanying orbs, septres and chains of office, medals and awards, will always be occupied, just by different tenants. The fledgling democracies that do exist, allow at least a limited choice of overseer. Monarch, Generalissimo, Religious Leader, Capitalist, Statist Bureaucrat, or some unholy combination of same. Of all the above, these days, the statist bureaucrat has , by far, the easiest route to real power. Protect your precious vote, at all costs! Bloody eck trastrick , all that out of Prince Edwards secondary modern . Tha must have been in class A . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Anna B 1,416 #806 Posted January 12, 2022 19 hours ago, crookesey said: Charles classed the royalty as being divine, whatamistakatomaka. Royalty still think they rule by divine right, at least our Lizzie does. They have to believe it because there's no earthly reason why they should be entitled to the throne. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
crookesey 635 #807 Posted January 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Anna B said: Royalty still think they rule by divine right, at least our Lizzie does. They have to believe it because there's no earthly reason why they should be entitled to the throne. The Russians replaced their brutality murdered royal family with a different autocratic none elected shambles of a leadership, we must take great care not to do similar, if we are ever given the opportunity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hauxwell 243 #808 Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, crookesey said: The Russians replaced their brutality murdered royal family with a different autocratic none elected shambles of a leadership, we must take great care not to do similar, if we are ever given the opportunity. Well I’m not going to argue with that. I agree with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bargepole23 337 #809 Posted January 12, 2022 On 10/01/2022 at 10:29, West 77 said: There is no demand for a referendum regarding the monarchy. No political party supports holding such a referendum. It took decades to get a referendum regarding out country's membership of the EU when there was a huge demand for one. If you want a referendum about the monarchy then I suggest you form your own political party like what UKIP did and put in decades of hard work to achieve your goal. BTW Prince Andrew is an innocent man. Innocent or not, he now has a case to answer. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59871514 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka #810 Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, West 77 said: You do know this is a civil case? You do know that nobody in the UK can be extradited to a foreign country to answer a civil case? Everyone including Prince Andrew is innocent until proven guilty. A civil case is not the same as a criminal case which is why the media and people can get away with making all sorts of comments and assumptions to discredit an individual. Hi Liz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Anna B 1,416 #811 Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, West 77 said: You do know this is a civil case? You do know that nobody in the UK can be extradited to a foreign country to answer a civil case? Everyone including Prince Andrew is innocent until proven guilty. A civil case is not the same as a criminal case which is why the media and people can get away with making all sorts of comments and assumptions to discredit an individual. Guilty or not, the damage has been done. Even if he manages to dodge a trial / hearing, a cloud will always hang over his head, not least because he failed to cooperate with the Americans, and that disasterous interview. I very much doubt he will ever be able to return to public duties. Edited January 12, 2022 by Anna B Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
harvey19 541 #812 Posted January 12, 2022 I did not find the interview as bad as some seem to have done. He made public his denial of any wrongdoing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
PRESLEY 1,230 #813 Posted January 12, 2022 West 77 reckons Andrew is an innocent man, mixed up with a group of pedo's and a photo around the young girl, come on West, stop it your making yourself sound ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ECCOnoob 1,050 #814 Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, PRESLEY said: West 77 reckons Andrew is an innocent man, mixed up with a group of pedo's and a photo around the young girl, come on West, stop it your making yourself sound ridiculous. ....... a "young girl" who was well over the legal age of consent in most countries around the world at the time the photograph of taken. A photograph which hardly displays a image of someone being there by way of fear, enforcement, entrapment or reluctance. A young girl who was previously caught out giving dubious evidence on other similar cases. A young girl who is clearly chasing the money more than prepared to sign big fat non disclosure settlement agreements rather than getting to the truth. A young girl who is a master in manipulating the media for her next compensatory payout from easy high profile targets. A young girl who has not provided a single shred of any credible evidence to these allegations. This is a civil compensatory claim. Let's get that simple fact out there. Let's all stop with this ridiculous notion that there is some book to be thrown or some jail cell just waiting or PC Plod around the corner ready to charge in to arrest him. She's after nothing more than a big fat cheque. Edited January 12, 2022 by ECCOnoob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
cuttsie 1,091 #815 Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) Was he married to that ginger Royal at the time . Perhaps the photo where he has his hand around that lass is a fake . Edited January 12, 2022 by cuttsie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hackey lad 3,983 #816 Posted January 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said: ....... a "young girl" who was well over the legal age of consent in most countries around the world at the time the photograph of taken. A young girl who was previously caught out giving dubious evidence on other similar cases. A young girl who is clearly chasing the money more than prepared to sign big fat non disclosure settlement agreements rather than getting to the truth. A young girl who is a master in manipulating the media for her next compensatory payout from easy high profile targets. A young girl who has not provided a single shred of any credible evidence to these allegations. This is a civil compensatory claim. Let's get that simple fact out there. Let's all stop with this ridiculous notion that there is some book to be thrown or some jail cell just waiting or PC Plod around the corner ready to charge in to arrest him. She's after nothing more than a big fat cheque. A " young girl " who accepted a settlement of 500,000 dollars from a Billionaire . Wonder why ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...