The Consequences of Brexit [part 4]

[melthebell]

Perhaps you might have directed your energies towards actually participating in the democratic process and casting your vote to Remain a member of the European Union rather than concentrating on simplistic word play games?

you and gammygob keep trying but neither of you actually know on what i voted or didnt vote on, you are guessing, i dont think ive ever said, and yet you still keep getting the posts removed and yet you keep on posting the same crap

[Car Boot]

you and gammygob keep trying but neither of you actually know on what i voted or didnt vote on, you are guessing, i dont think ive ever said, and yet you still keep getting the posts removed and yet you keep on posting the same crap

 

You have actually posted on this forum that you have never voted.

[retep]

you and gammygob keep trying but neither of you actually know on what i voted or didnt vote on, you are guessing, i dont think ive ever said, and yet you still keep getting the posts removed and yet you keep on posting the same crap

 

Here's a reminder,

 

"think i count since its my first time voting...ever,"

[RJRB]

As the EU is by far the U.K. ‘s biggest export market, I think it makes sense to remain part of the customs union .

What is the counter argument?

[Car Boot]

As the EU is by far the U.K. ‘s biggest export market, I think it makes sense to remain part of the customs union .

What is the counter argument?

 

It was made very clear before the referendum that we would, if we voted to Leave, be leaving the EU, the Single Market, the Customs Union. Stopping the bosses favourite free movement of people and ending the supremacy of the European Court of Justice. Contributions to the EU's budget will also come to an end.

 

Staying in the Customs Union will prevent our ability to do independent trade deals with the rest of the world that cover both goods and services.

 

Staying in the Customs Union prioritises trade with the EU over every other non-EU country, when world markets are growing.

 

Apart from Monaco, only EU countries are in the Customs Union. Those countries which are closest to the EU (Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein and Switzerland) are outside. A partial Customs Union, as Turkey has, has been designed for a country that is on a path to full EU membership. And it doesn't cover all goods.

 

Permanent membership of the Customs Union means the UK will have less power, less control, to determine our economic future. Which is one of the reasons we voted to Leave the EU in June 2016.

 

To take back control.

 

Staying in the EU Customs Union means surrendering control of our trade policy to unelected beauracrats in Brussels.

 

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The EU is a protectionist capitalist organisation that was designed from the start to prioritise the profits of European food producers, clothing manufacturers, etc. Big business has always favoured the Customs Union because it maximises profit for the few at the expense of the EU consumer.

 

It makes no sense for a particular EU member state, such as the UK, to impose a tariff on the import of any goods that are not produced at all within that country. But our membership of the EU Customs Union means exactly that.

 

The current EU tariff on bananas imported from outside the EU is 10.9%.

 

The UK does not produce its own bananas, so a Customs Union tariff on banana imports only raises prices and does not protect domestic UK producers, as there aren't any! UK consumers pay more because of EU Customs Union tarriffs.

 

The Customs Union: protecting the profits of business at the expense of consumers.

Edited April 19, 2018 by Car Boot

[RJRB]

But EU countries are our largest and nearest export markets.

As someone said as distance doubles ,exports halves.

Do you think that these reduced markets will be more than replaced by additional sales to countries that hitherto we have no trade agreements with?

That’s a big leap of faith.

To be honest ,I don’t think that many voters of either persuasion had given the Customs Union much thought at the time of voting.

One of many details that we are now googling day by day.

Edited April 19, 2018 by RJRB

[Car Boot]

But EU countries are our largest and nearest export markets.

As someone said as distance doubles ,exports halves.

 

I'm guessing that someone wasn't living in China.

 

Do you think that these reduced markets will be more than replaced by additional sales to countries that hitherto we have no trade agreements with?

That’s a big leap of faith.

To be honest ,I don’t think that many voters of either persuasion had given the Customs Union much thought at the time of voting.

One of many details that we are now googling day by day.

 

A permanent UK Customs Union with the EU will ensure that any non-EU countries that sign EU trade deals will have unrestricted free access to the UK. But the UK won't have a reciprocal deal because it will be the EU that has the power to decide our tariffs & quotas with non-EU countries, not the UK.

 

As a non-EU member in the Customs Union UK exporters would have to pay large tarriffs to sell their goods abroad, but their non-EU competitors could have negotiated free access to the UK market. All thanks to the slimy men and women in Brussels.

[gomgeg]

You have actually posted on this forum that you have never voted.

Probably some of the educated remoaners didn't vote because they couldn't spell X, likely to have used a Z.

Or perhaps they were too busy working, oh hang on a bit.

[Cyclone]

It was a very high turnout from both sides, people not voting probably thought it was a done deal and that remain was going to win. I don't have much sympathy for them.

 

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I'm guessing that someone wasn't living in China.

 

 

I'm guessing that it's OUR exports that are important to OUR economy, not Chinese exports.

[Longcol]

I'm guessing that someone wasn't living in China.

 

 

China is a growing market but still way behind the EU for trade.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42821084

 

We run a substantial trade deficit with China £25bn a year.