Another vote t'other side of the Border.

[sedith]

About time we in England had a referendum on whether we want the bloody jocks. Build that wall, build that wall ... and who's going to pay for the wall??? Scotland!!

[ricgem2002]

 

have to get some Polish builders in though, to do a good job.

then get the british in to make good their work :hihi:

[Jacktari]

then get the british in to make good their work :hihi:

 

That is half the problem.

If they had paid the rate for the job, and employed Englishmen to start with, we would not have this trouble.

The shoddy work is only coming to the fore now.

Before I retired I worked on many large projects, and could see the poor workmanship done by men claiming to be builders and engineers, undercutting English workers for the job.

It is the old saying, 'you buy cheap, you buy twice'.

[ricgem2002]

That is half the problem.

If they had paid the rate for the job, and employed Englishmen to start with, we would not have this trouble.

The shoddy work is only coming to the fore now.

Before I retired I worked on many large projects, and could see the poor workmanship done by men claiming to be builders and engineers, undercutting English workers for the job.

It is the old saying, 'you buy cheap, you buy twice'.

faults of the employers then

[Jacktari]

faults of the employers then

 

As always, that is why I was against joining in the first place.

Free movement of labour driving down wages and standards.

 

this is on the wrong thread actually.

[tinfoilhat]

then get the british in to make good their work :hihi:

 

I've only had British tradesmen screw up jobs I've asked them to do.

[Justin Smith]

I have just heard on the Today programme that Theresa May is to refuse the Scots having a referendum before Brexit is concluded because it`d be "divisive". GORDON BENNET ! What a SODDIN` hypocrite Theresa May is ! ! Without any doubt the most divisive thing in my lifetime has been the referendum* and, critically, her attitude to it afterwards. No concessions to the 48% who voted remain remember, and stretching what even (all) the Remain voters even voted for.

 

Is it any wonder people have such a low opinion of politicians......

 

* And let`s remember that before the last General Election only 15% of voters put Europe in their top three of concerns, but that didn`t stop the Tories having this super divisive referendum ! It`d be absolutely laughable if it weren`t so unbelievably serious.

Edited March 14, 2017 by Justin Smith

[unbeliever]

I have just heard on the Today programme that Theresa May is to refuse the Scots having a referendum before Brexit is concluded because it`d be "divisive". GORDON BENNET ! What a SODDIN` hypocrite Theresa May is ! ! Without any doubt the most divisive thing in my lifetime has been the referendum* and, critically, her attitude to it afterwards. No concessions to the 48% who voted remain remember, and stretching what even (all) the Remain voters even voted for.

 

Is it any wonder people have such a low opinion of politicians......

 

* And let`s remember that before the last General Election only 15% of voters put Europe in their top three of concerns, but that didn`t stop the Tories having this super divisive referendum ! It`d be absolutely laughable if it weren`t so unbelievably serious.

 

Bogus poll comes out again.

[Justin Smith]

I have just heard on the Today programme that Theresa May is to refuse the Scots having a referendum before Brexit is concluded because it`d be "divisive". GORDON BENNET ! What a SODDIN` hypocrite Theresa May is ! ! Without any doubt the most divisive thing in my lifetime has been the referendum* and, critically, her attitude to it afterwards. No concessions to the 48% who voted remain remember, and stretching what even (all) the Remain voters even voted for.

 

Is it any wonder people have such a low opinion of politicians......

 

* And let`s remember that before the last General Election only 15% of voters put Europe in their top three of concerns, but that didn`t stop the Tories having this super divisive referendum ! It`d be absolutely laughable if it weren`t so unbelievably serious.

 

I can`t believe this, hypocrisy has hit even greater heights ! Apparently the UK Govt think it unfair that the Scottish should hold their referendum before the final terms of Brexit are known, thus, they say, any Scottish Referendum should occur after that point.

 

WHAT ! ! !

 

The UK had to vote on EU membership before any terms were even dreamt about. And, even more disgusting, any suggestion the UK should have any more choice in leaving the EU once the Brexit terms are known, is "undemocratic".

 

There really is no depths of hypocrisy to which the politicians, particularly Brexit Tories, will not stoop.

 

---------- Post added 14-03-2017 at 08:20 ----------

 

Bogus poll comes out again.

 

Actually, it isn`t a "Bogus poll", as you full well know, It`s just a poll which says something you`d rather people didn`t know about.

 

---------- Post added 14-03-2017 at 09:44 ----------

 

We are leaving the EU thank god ,get used to it.

 

Oh I shall never get used to it. My respect for British democracy has gone, I have no patriotism left. Leave repeatedly lied (and are still lying), won, and have got away with it.

 

We have plenty of unemployed in England to do the job [build a wall between us and Scotland].

 

You don`t know what you`re talking about Penny, we are short of builders and, in fact, tradesmen generally in this country. Any tradesman who is out of work is not much of a tradesman.

Edited March 14, 2017 by Justin Smith

[unbeliever]

I can`t believe this, hypocrisy has hit even greater heights ! Apparently the UK Govt think it unfair that the Scottish should hold their referendum before the final terms of Brexit are known, thus, they say, any Scottish Referendum should occur after that point.

 

WHAT ! ! !

 

The UK had to vote on EU membership before any terms were even dreamt about. And, even more disgusting, any suggestion the UK should have any more choice in leaving the EU once the Brexit terms are known, is "undemocratic".

 

There really is no depths of hypocrisy to which the politicians, particularly Brexit Tories, will not stoop.

 

---------- Post added 14-03-2017 at 08:20 ----------

 

 

Actually, it isn`t a "Bogus poll", as you full well know, It`s just a poll which says something you`d rather people didn`t know about.

 

---------- Post added 14-03-2017 at 09:44 ----------

 

 

Oh I shall never get used to it. My respect for British democracy has gone, I have no patriotism left. Leave repeatedly lied (and are still lying), won, and have got away with it.

 

 

 

You don`t know what you`re talking about Penny, we are short of builders and, in fact, tradesmen generally in this country. Any tradesman who is out of work is not much of a tradesman.

 

 

It's a poll that you've selectively interpreted to man what you want.

 

I knew exactly what I was voting for.

Point out where it said "Kind of half leave the EU" on your ballot paper.

 

If the case for holding another Scexit referendum is based on Brexit then it makes zero sense to hold another vote mid-way through the negotiations.

If the Scottish are leaving then there's a string case against them participating in the process. So they should go now.

If they're seriously considering staying, then best they make that decision once things are settled between the UK and the EU.

Either early our late make sense. In the middle is just the worst.

Edited March 14, 2017 by unbeliever