Another vote t'other side of the Border.

[L00b 441]

No. The commission spokesman simply referred to the view taken 6 years ago and indicated that nothing had changed.

He's right, nothing has: May has yet to put her Article 50 note in

 

You've got to be careful with those Europeans politicians, ub: what they don't say is frequently far more important than what they do say.

[unbeliever 10]

He's right, nothing has: May has yet to put her Article 50 note in

 

You've got to be careful with those Europeans politicians, ub: what they don't say is frequently far more important than what they do say.

 

Would have been a bit cheeky for her to put it in 5 years before the referendum.

[L00b 441]

Would have been a bit cheeky for her to put it in 5 years before the referendum.

All the more so since she was a remainer until July 13, 2016

[unbeliever 10]

All the more so since she was a remainer until July 13, 2016

 

Still that kind of prescience would be quite an advantage in international affairs.

Now I'm wondering if leave would still have won if she hadn't opposed it.

[Hairyloon 10]

Now I'm wondering if leave would still have won if she hadn't opposed it.

 

They would not have won if Cameron hadn't led the remain campaign.

[apelike 10]

All the more so since she was a remainer until July 13, 2016

 

I thought she was still a remainer but due to her status will carry out the will of the people on their behalf, as Cameron right royally screwed it all up.

[ANGELFIRE1 10]

Which does appear to be almost the entirety of your argument. It holds no water.

 

 

What does hold water is that WE are leaving the corrupt EU. Get over it, it will happen - the sooner the better.

 

Angel1.

[L00b 441]

I thought she was still a remainer but due to her status will carry out the will of the people on their behalf, as Cameron right royally screwed it all up.

"the will of the people"?

 

You mean, the "will of a voting majority", surely?

 

That's very significantly short of 'the people' (whom I understand to be the 65m or so sailing aboard HMS GB, right?)

 

Whatever she's carrying out...in fact, 7 months on, what has she been carrying out?

 

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[andyofborg 11]

 

Whatever she's carrying out...in fact, 7 months on, what has she been carrying out?

 

 

she's been hoping for a "bobby ewing" moment and this all turns out to have been a bad dream.....

[apelike 10]

"the will of the people"?

 

You mean, the "will of a voting majority", surely?

 

Of course as she cannot do anything else but.. the will of the people here is defined by a voting majority and not by who was eligible to vote as we do not take abstainers into account when talking about elections. By not voting the abstainers have automatically removed themselves by default from being considered in the term "the will of the people" and have excluded themselves for consideration. Therefore May is carrying out the will of the people the same way Ted Heath also carried out the will of the people in 75 in the last EEC referendum. You either vote and get included or don't bother and get excluded its that simple.

 

Whatever she's carrying out...in fact, 7 months on, what has she been carrying out?

 

She and her government have been to parliament and have successfully gained approval to get royal assent to trigger A50 after several debates. If it wasn't for some disruption from people challenging the decision to do that in the first place it could have been done a lot sooner.

[L00b 441]

Of course as she cannot do anything else but.. the will of the people here is defined by a voting majority and not by who was eligible to vote as we do not take abstainers into account when talking about elections. By not voting the abstainers have automatically removed themselves by default from being considered in the term "the will of the people" and have excluded themselves for consideration. Therefore May is carrying out the will of the people the same way Ted Heath also carried out the will of the people in 75 in the last EEC referendum. You either vote and get included or don't bother and get excluded its that simple.

So, it looks like we're agreed then, that's the will of the referendum-voting majority, not the will of the people.

 

So, 17.1 million people.

 

That leaves out, by my count, 47m people (64.1m UK pop. est. acc. to Google).

 

Glad we cleared that up

She and her government have been to parliament and have successfully gained approval to get royal assent to trigger A50 after several debates. If it wasn't for some disruption from people challenging the decision to do that in the first place it could have been done a lot sooner.

The whole Parliament thing ending with royal assent this week is down to Gina Miller (et al) legal challenge last year.

 

May was forced into involving Parliament: she was not going to give any debate until the Appeal judgment was handed down this January.

 

So, now, aside from wasting valuable government resources and the taxpayer's money trying to defend her indefensible authoritarian adventures, and looking all the more stupid for it in the end...

 

...what has she been carrying out?

[unbeliever 10]

By this standard no presidential election is valid and not even PR election results are legitimate.