'It's Acceptable To Park On Cycle Lanes, Curbs And Pavements'- Parking Services

[Litotes 63]

On 29/07/2023 at 17:23, Planner1 said:

The CEO explains it. They need to park close to where they are working and it is acceptable for them to park on a restriction if there’s nowhere else they can park.

 

That is standard operating procedure for parking enforcement here and elsewhere. They are allowed to do it.

That’s what you may think, but the legal position is rather different.

But there was plenty of space to park which wasn't blocking a designated cycle lane.

[Litotes 63]

7 hours ago, Planner1 said:

The person taking the video doesn’t show any available spaces. You’d have thought that if there were any, they would have shown them, in order to highlight the point they were making.

 

The individual officers have to assess the situation and decide where to park. They are instructed to park in compliance with restrictions if they can. They are acutely conscious of this kind of situation as it is something that people often bring up.

Plenty of space on Norfolk Street where they won't be causing an obstruction or a hazard to cyclists - but no, they need to create that hazard and park on the pavement. Silly silly warden!

[Tipstaff 160]

Operational necessity comes into this.  Their vehicles are marked and have flashing lights for this purpose.

[redruby 280]

Look, as much as some would like, or feel entitled, to park wherever and whenever they want, it’s not going to happen.  I’ve seen parking wardens parked in the bus lanes on Ecclesall Road when these are in operation because they are issuing tickets to the dingbats that have parked up there.   How else could they do their job if they had to go hunting around for a vacant parking space on a side street?  It’s not ideal granted, but it’s necessary to do their job. In an ideal world we wouldn’t need parking wardens because people wouldn’t park like entitled, selfish idiots.

[hackey lad 3,996]

4 minutes ago, redruby said:

Look, as much as some would like, or feel entitled, to park wherever and whenever they want, it’s not going to happen.  I’ve seen parking wardens parked in the bus lanes on Ecclesall Road when these are in operation because they are issuing tickets to the dingbats that have parked up there.   How else could they do their job if they had to go hunting around for a vacant parking space on a side street?  It’s not ideal granted, but it’s necessary to do their job. In an ideal world we wouldn’t need parking wardens because people wouldn’t park like entitled, selfish idiots.

[HeHasRisen 3,417]

5 minutes ago, redruby said:

Look, as much as some would like, or feel entitled, to park wherever and whenever they want, it’s not going to happen.  I’ve seen parking wardens parked in the bus lanes on Ecclesall Road when these are in operation because they are issuing tickets to the dingbats that have parked up there.   How else could they do their job if they had to go hunting around for a vacant parking space on a side street?  It’s not ideal granted, but it’s necessary to do their job. In an ideal world we wouldn’t need parking wardens because people wouldn’t park like entitled, selfish idiots.

Now you've gone and done it! Prepare for a backlash. Oh and also an accusation you must work for the Council. 

[redruby 280]

5 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said:

Now you've gone and done it! Prepare for a backlash. Oh and also an accusation you must work for the Council. 

For the record I don’t work for the council 🙂

[Litotes 63]

28 minutes ago, redruby said:

Look, as much as some would like, or feel entitled, to park wherever and whenever they want, it’s not going to happen.  I’ve seen parking wardens parked in the bus lanes on Ecclesall Road when these are in operation because they are issuing tickets to the dingbats that have parked up there.   How else could they do their job if they had to go hunting around for a vacant parking space on a side street?  It’s not ideal granted, but it’s necessary to do their job. In an ideal world we wouldn’t need parking wardens because people wouldn’t park like entitled, selfish idiots.

Never understood that argument - they could park down any sidestreet on a double yellow (because they can) and chase off the miscreant at which point the bus lane would be empty - instead they often park in illegal (to the rest of the populous) or dangerous positions (like in that video) or end up causing as much of an obstruction as those they have ticketed.

And actually all we would need are cameras not extra cars on the roads.

[Planner1 443]

13 minutes ago, Litotes said:

And actually all we would need are cameras not extra cars on the roads.

Unfortunately the government disagrees. They largely stopped councils from using cameras to enforce parking.

[redruby 280]

7 minutes ago, Litotes said:

Never understood that argument - they could park down any sidestreet on a double yellow (because they can) and chase off the miscreant at which point the bus lane would be empty - instead they often park in illegal (to the rest of the populous) or dangerous positions (like in that video) or end up causing as much of an obstruction as those they have ticketed.

And actually all we would need are cameras not extra cars on the roads.

The side streets are often narrow and double parked.  It would be more time consuming and impractical to park there.  Basically, some people are sore because they can’t deal with the fact that parking wardens will park, briefly, where the general public aren’t allowed to to issue parking tickets to entitled, selfish idiots who feel they should be allowed to park wherever they want for their own convenience and stuff everyone else! These are the people that use every lame excuse in the book to justify their selfishness.

[26b-6 16]

So you agree,  and confirm Parking-Services clearly are not fit to serve us. The law should apply to everyone, especially those who we pay to uphold the law. Having exemption from dangerous, unnecessary selfish obstructive parking, is no excuse or justification for this behaviour.  Leading by example and moral decency should be a given.

 

Thankfully it is not common practise for Police Constabularies to be stealing  cars whilst arresting others for stealing cars.  

On 31/07/2023 at 16:01, Planner1 said:

That’s not a gap in parking spaces, there’s a footway build out if you look. The vehicle you can see is in the last space next to the build out.

 

If they parked on the double yellow at that location, that would be a worse location in terms of planning for a speedy exit, as it’s essentially in a short cul-de-sac with one exit which can easily be blocked.

 

The truth is that none of us knows exactly what the situation was when the CEO’s arrived ( in terms of what spaces were or were not available) or exactly why they parked at that point.

 

The fact is that they are exempt from the waiting restrictions for very good practical operational reasons. To my knowledge all local authorities have these exemptions for enforcement.
 

You may not like it and you can complain about it if you wish. The CEO’s are fully aware that these situations arouse anger and resentment and they should always be prepared to justify their actions.

I'm not from Sheffield and do not know the city-centre particularly well. But if I have the location correct,  it is Charles Street and there's a great big Q-Park! If there wasn't any car-park, like you've stated,  their selfish obstructive behaviour would not be excused.

[HeHasRisen 3,417]

7 minutes ago, 26b-6 said:

So you agree,  and confirm Parking-Services clearly are not fit to serve us. The law should apply to everyone, especially those who we pay to uphold the law. Having exemption from dangerous, unnecessary selfish obstructive parking, is no excuse or justification for this behaviour.  Leading by example and moral decency should be a given.

 

Thankfully it is not common practise for Police Constabularies to be stealing  cars whilst arresting others for stealing cars.  

I'm not from Sheffield and do not know the city-centre particularly well. But if I have the location correct,  it is Charles Street and there's a great big Q-Park! If there wasn't any car-park, like you've stated,  their selfish obstructive behaviour would not be excused.

So you want them to go and park up in a private multi storey car park, and pay the private company the fee to get out (it's barrier controlled) whilst dispensing tickets? 

Edited August 18, 2023 by HeHasRisen