paula4sheff Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Cyclone, You don't have to be a parent it's a personality trait............ Paula I agree with all you've said, however I do feel that the number of people who display this sort of behaviour in public is few and far between, the way I see it is we have more important issues in society today to worry about. Oh, there are undoubtedly bigger issues - global warming, a dangerous mentally unstable lunatic running America, etc etc. You can't ignore other issues because of those though, even though they are more serious. You wouldn't ignore a mugging for instance, because there had been someone shot down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazybaby Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 All those actions are punishable in law. Correct me if Im wrong but words are only punishable if they have caused distress. The guy on the tram was a nasty piece of work but as far as I can see the woman he was spouting his drivel at was not in the slightest bit perturbed by it and continued to film him threatening to upload the video to You Tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paula4sheff Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 All those actions are punishable in law. Correct me if Im wrong but words are only punishable if they have caused distress. The guy on the tram was a nasty piece of work but as far as I can see the woman he was spouting his drivel at was not in the slightest bit perturbed by it and continued to film him threatening to upload the video to You Tube. I think some of this applies to his bevaiour - especially a) of the second part. "In England and Wales the Public Order Act 1986 prohibits, by its Part 3, expressions of racial hatred, which is defined as hatred against a group of persons by reason of the group's colour, race, nationality (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origins. Section 18 of the Act says: A person who uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or displays any written material which is threatening, abusive or insulting, is guilty of an offence if— (a) they intends thereby to stir up racial hatred, or (b) having regard to all the circumstances racial hatred is likely to be stirred up thereby. Offences under Part 3 carry a maximum sentence of seven years imprisonment or a fine or both.[6] The Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 inserted Section 4A into the Public Order Act 1986. That part prohibits anyone from causing alarm or distress. Section 4A states: (1) A person is guilty of an offence if, with intent to cause a person harassment, alarm or distress, he— (a) uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or (b) displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting, thereby causing that or another person harassment, alarm or distress." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazybaby Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 This may be true, I will watch again when I get home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 All those actions are punishable in law. Correct me if Im wrong but words are only punishable if they have caused distress. The guy on the tram was a nasty piece of work but as far as I can see the woman he was spouting his drivel at was not in the slightest bit perturbed by it and continued to film him threatening to upload the video to You Tube. He threatened to knock out the black guy on his way off the tram, that's a crime whether or not the guy felt perturbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikki-red Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Personal comments and bickering has been removed, if this continues you may find your accounts suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffty_500 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Some drunk guy mouthing off to someone clearly provoking him so she could get her video of fame. He said he'd knock the guy out (no need to say he was black), he didn't and got off the tram. Big deal. People put too much emphasis on being offended. Hang him!! Yeah he shouldnt have said what he did but its a non story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutch Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 I don't agree with his behaviour, I do feel sorry for him. What we see on the video comes from pain and suffering, not joy and happiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewalk Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 He is crazy and needs assistance, law will not make him sane again. But it might help him control his behaviour in future. Since when has being drunk, having ill informed opinions and displaying loutish behaviour been evidence of mental illness ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Think im more disturbed by the odd woman sat next to him why was she odd? at least she was embarressed by his behavious and trying to get him to stop. prolly one of our friendly lil islamophobes off here lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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