RJRB Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) Why was it a mistake they are/were predominately Pakistanis that are to blame for these crimes. Obvious mistake to me,but if you don't see it ,fair enough. It always helps to be factual when you are making an argument. Edited August 17, 2017 by RJRB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidley Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Obvious mistake to me,but if you don't see it ,fair enough. It always helps to be factual when you are making an argument. I take your point, but if you dont say it as it is it dont mean anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 If Corbyn did sack her for speaking out, as Javid claims, then I would not vote for Labour while he was leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazybaby Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) If Corbyn did sack her for speaking out, as Javid claims, then I would not vote for Labour while he was leader. "Sarah Champion was sacked by Jeremy Corbyn over Sun article on sexual exploitation of white girls" https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/home-affairs/policing/news/88302/sarah-champion-was-sacked-jeremy-corbyn-over-sun-article Ms Champion officially resigned as shadow equalities minister yesterday following intense criticism over her comments, which she made in an article for The Sun. But it has emerged that Mr Corbyn asked her to quit the Shadow Cabinet-level post - effectively sacking her from the role . In the article she said Britain has a problem with British-Pakistani men raping and exploiting white girls, maybe she should have said issue instead of problem, when it becomes a problem I don't know................. Edited August 17, 2017 by crazybaby link to source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafya Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/home-affairs/policing/news/88302/sarah-champion-was-sacked-jeremy-corbyn-over-sun-article . In the article she said Britain has a problem with British-Pakistani men raping and exploiting white girls, maybe she should have said issue instead of problem, when it becomes a problem I don't know................. my bold= Talk about stereotyping all British Pakistanis! Maybe the word Some should have been used... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 my bold= Talk about stereotyping all British Pakistanis! Maybe the word Some should have been used... I agree that the word some should have been used. However, it should be self evident to everybody that not all British Pakistani men commit these hideous crimes. Okay Sarah Champion has resigned her shadow front bench role because she didn't qualify the word 'some' in her sentence. However those on the front line of child & vulnerable adult protection services (police, social workers, council officials) who turned a blind eye to the appalling abuse of children and who did nothing are still in their jobs! Add to that, it has been reported that the scandal of these grooming gangs are still continuing. It seems that the lessons of the Jay Report have been forgotten so soon after it was published. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazybaby Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) my bold= Talk about stereotyping all British Pakistanis! Maybe the word Some should have been used...[/QUOTe True, she admits she used a poor choice of words. Although I don't believe this was a generalised belief of Sarahs and so wouldn't in my view point towards a stereotype. Edited August 17, 2017 by crazybaby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidley Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 my bold= Talk about stereotyping all British Pakistanis! Maybe the word Some should have been used... She also said in the report that, the biggest perpetrators of this crime are white males Talk about stereotyping all white males! Maybe the word Some should have been used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) The first sensible thing she has ever said and she gets the sack it shows that you still cant tell the truth (without consiquensus) about some asians breaking the law? Nobody should be afraid to tell the truth. I've got a lot of respect for Champion and what she said was correct Nigel Farage agrees. BBC reports him as writing on Twitter, "Telling the truth about tough issues is now impossible in the modern Labour Party. Pathetic." ---------- Post added 17-08-2017 at 17:07 ---------- "In the article she said Britain has a problem with British-Pakistani men raping and exploiting white girls, maybe she should have said issue instead of problem, when it becomes a problem I don't know................. "Issue"/"problem"- the words largely mean the same, except that "issue" is a more trendy version. But there certainly is a problem. There seem to be many such groups throughout the UK, convicted in properly-conducted criminal trials with guilt established beyond reasonable doubt. Edited August 17, 2017 by Jeffrey Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Hardie Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 How was it revealed to you, and by who? In his response to her resignation letter, Jeremy Corbyn said he looks forward to working with her again soon. I think that's what's known as weasel words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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