How long until Cannabis is legal in the UK?

[Cyclone 10]

Probably as soon as they can figure out how to make this equation work:

 

Tax Revenue + Money for Big Business >> Cost of administration

 

That works immediately. Since they immediately save the billions they spend on "the war on drugs".

 

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Drug use in Portugal hasn't been legalised, so there is no evidence that legalisation works from that source anyway.

Now decriminalisation may have some merit.

 

It's a step towards legalisation isn't it. You can logically extrapolate the affects of legalisation from the affects of decriminalisation. Made easier in the light of evidence from actual legalisation of course.

[willman 10]

That works immediately. Since they immediately save the billions they spend on "the war on drugs".

 

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It's a step towards legalisation isn't it. You can logically extrapolate the affects of legalisation from the affects of decriminalisation. Made easier in the light of evidence from actual legalisation of course.

 

Would they save millions?

How much do we spend on supporting the legal drugs, cigs and booze industry. All we will do is find that we have to provide services to cannabis users just like we do smokers and drinkers. So i can't see any financial benefit.

 

I don't doubt you could extrapolate the benefits. You could also extrapolate the benefits of removing drug dealers and users from the street if we aren't using actual evidence.

The states have seen some massive benefits from legalisation in the areas where people want to act in a legal manner. Some of the same areas already act lawfully the UK (hydroponics for instance),what isn't controlled is the quality or the price of the drug.

Edited November 14, 2014 by willman

[Phanerothyme 12]

10-15 years.

 

Of course, cannabis is already legal in this country. Otherwise there wouldn't be a British company growing it, extracting the active ingredients, and turning them into medicine. So it's not like the mechanisms don't exist already.

 

But unlike the US, we don't have a long history of medical cannabis acceptance here - which is what they are building on.

 

But as someone said earlier, USA gets a cold, UK sneezes. The big change will come if US federal law ever swings round to reflect the will of the states. Right now, in spite of being legal in 10% of the US, federal law still considers cannabis a schedule I drug (no accepted medical use) and attaches heavy penalties for its possession and use. Thus the DEA has the power to shut down cannabis growers and retailers in the states where it is legal - but have wisely decided not to.

[kingdom 10]

i took up a new hobby , smoking

[lines 10]

i took up a new hobby , smoking

 

They sell it in chocolate in the Dam! Scuffles!

 

Many dope smokers have also used vaporisers for decades, they didn't even need the smoking ban to force them into it either!

[Cyclone 10]

Would they save millions?

BILLIONS

14 of them is one estimate.

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2009/apr/07/drugs-policy-legalisation-report

How much do we spend on supporting the legal drugs, cigs and booze industry. All we will do is find that we have to provide services to cannabis users just like we do smokers and drinkers. So i can't see any financial benefit.

We already have to provide them health services. What we also do is spend billions fighting this "crime" and take no tax revenue.

I don't doubt you could extrapolate the benefits. You could also extrapolate the benefits of removing drug dealers and users from the street if we aren't using actual evidence.

You could also look at the real benefits of that happening... Extrapolation can be evidence based.

The states have seen some massive benefits from legalisation in the areas where people want to act in a legal manner. Some of the same areas already act lawfully the UK (hydroponics for instance),what isn't controlled is the quality or the price of the drug.

 

I don't quite get the emphasis, "want to act in a legal manner"? Is there a suggestion that people in the UK don't want to do that, and so the benefits would be different?

[TimmyR 10]

Never hopefully

 

Soon hopefully and we can stop wasting tax payers money trying to police it, which doesn't work.

[Penistone999 10]

Never hopefully

 

Agreed.:thumbsup:

[geared 321]

Agreed.:thumbsup:

 

Is that a first, you agreeing with Mecky???

[Penistone999 10]

Soon hopefully and we can stop wasting tax payers money trying to police it, which doesn't work.

 

If we locked up cannabis dealers , growers and users for a minimum of 5 years for a first offence then we wouldn't have to police it as the cannabis lovers would be banged up leaving the plod to concentrate on other things. Simples.

 

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Is that a first, you agreeing with Mecky???

 

I think it is. Dont worry it won't happen very often. :hihi:

[Snorbuckle 10]

If the sacking of David Nutt is any indication, we won't get any meaningful shift on this important issue until someone with any brain cells is in charge. The complete dismissal of scientific evidence with regards to drugs policy that this government perpetrates is quite frankly idiotic and a gross betrayal of the public's trust.

[geared 321]

It's a waste of time and money employing those people.

 

The government takes no notice of anything they say, it just repeats the same worn out statement.

 

Whats the point in having people advise on drug policy when everything they say is dismissed out of hand??