chem1st   10 #1 Posted October 14, 2014 Many groups are of very little worth. These worthless people generally tend to be poor, uneducated and living on the edge of society or participating in things considered to be taboo.  The homeless person, the drug user, the drug dealer, the person without a family, the disabled, the unemployed, the prostitute, the immigrant, the man, the woman, and so on.  A persons worth is not fixed, and it changes with time.  Prostitutes for example, are seldom deemed to be of any worth by many. Quite often you find that they are targeted by criminals, and they become victims and their plight is ignored. How many times have serial killers targeted female street workers and gotten away with it multiple times before anything is done. After a while, when many fall victim to crime, their worth might be reconsidered, and their safety becomes a priority, at least for a short period of time.  But while the worth of one group might be temporarily elevated, many others remain worthless and of little worth. And it is these people, of little worth, who make easy targets for exploitation, harm, abuse, jokes etc. it is these people whose plight is of little concern. People don't care all that much for them because they are of little worth.  For example, the police do not assign much worth to people who grow cannabis, and they make perfect targets for robbers.  The homeless are of little worth to government, and their lack of housing is not addressed.  The young are of little worth to politicians, and they are financially discriminated against.  The poor are of little worth to profit making private enterprise, a supermarket would rather throw food away, than feed the destitute. They would rather not sell food at a lower price (non profit making price) to the poorest workers. These poor people then find themselves reliant on charity to eat - the foodbanks. Fortunately, people donate to foodbanks, as they assign some worth to the poor and consider them deserving and worthy of being fed.  Anyhow, this brings me to the question in the thread title.  The most worthless people in the UK in 2014?  Who are they? Why are they worthless?  If identified, can we do something to help them, to make sure they do not fall victim to crime, exploitation etc.?  Can stereotypes be challenged so the worthiness of people is reconsidered?  Are you of worth?  What do you think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M Â Â 1,639 #2 Posted October 14, 2014 Instead of the Sunday Times having a 'Rich List', maybe once they could do a 'poor list' of those unfortunates in the U.K. who are poverty stricken, marginalised, and downtrodden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
sevenmonkeys   10 #3 Posted October 14, 2014 People who smoke in cars with young children in are in my opinion the most worthless beings on the planet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Fogey   10 #4 Posted October 14, 2014 Instead of the Sunday Times having a 'Rich List', maybe once they could do a 'poor list' of those unfortunates in the U.K. who are poverty stricken, marginalised, and downtrodden  this is an incredible idea, would love to see both lists printed side by side.  Your morning paper Mr Osbourne, theres a piece about scroungers today....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
blake   10 #5 Posted October 14, 2014 the obvious place to start if you want to do a self indulgent bleeding heart excercise is Britain's prisons, their inhabitants, their ancestors and their dependents because they are not in prison all the time. Sometimes they are seen, scandalously, in public. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
yellowperil   10 #6 Posted October 14, 2014 Why was my post removed from this thread? Any idea mods????????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
esme   10 #7 Posted October 14, 2014 Mod Note Why was my post removed from this thread? Any idea mods????????? There is no record of any posts being removed from this thread, perhaps you hit 'preview' rather than 'post'. In future if you have any queries such as this, please contact the Helpdesk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The Joker   10 #8 Posted October 14, 2014 Why was my post removed from this thread? Any idea mods?????????  I think it's the AI built into the latest beta of the forum software.  If it thinks your ideas are too daft, it doesn't bother to post them and spares you the potential embarrassment.  Do you think that could be it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
yellowperil   10 #9 Posted October 14, 2014 My mistake, it wasnt this thread, it was an identical one that was removed it seems, does anyone have any idea why?  ---------- Post added 14-10-2014 at 23:43 ----------  I think it's the AI built into the latest beta of the forum software. If it thinks your ideas are too daft, it doesn't bother to post them and spares you the potential embarrassment.  Do you think that could be it?  You could be right but it left yours ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The Joker   10 #10 Posted October 14, 2014 You could be right but it left yours ;-)  Remember it's only a beta, it should be fixed in the final version Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
chem1st   10 #11 Posted October 14, 2014 My mistake, it wasnt this thread, it was an identical one that was removed it seems, does anyone have any idea why? ---------- Post added 14-10-2014 at 23:43 ----------   You could be right but it left yours ;-)  The idea for the thread came from the description of the victims of the local CSE crime as being worthless by the abusers, police and local government. However, there are already threads mentioning CSE, and that is why the previous one was removed.  I have re-posted the thread and removed any mention of the CSE, so the debate about worth can be had  I never wanted this thread to be about CSE, but I mentioned it so as to give a better understanding of the concept of worth, and how people of little worth can be systematically abused etc. without anybody really caring.  The rational being, if the girls were viewed as worthless and the abuse allowed to continue and be ignored because they were of such little worth. Then who else is viewed as worthless and at risk of abuse, violence etc.  Hopefully this thread can remain and a debate about worth be had. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
yellowperil   10 #12 Posted October 14, 2014 Explains perfectly.thankyou. Original removed as it mentioned the inconvenient truth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...