The Labour Party. All discussion here please

[Robin-H 11]

Cheers, I know, I was the one who quoted it. I just wanted to see if El Cid would admit that.

 

Oh yes sorry - so you were! I missed that.

[El Cid 221]

Is this only for new claimants of Universal Credit, or will it apply to those already receiving it?

 

Will any child currently entitled to a free school meal have that entitlement removed?

 

Does that make it ok, its not happening now, but it will happen over time. That is the new way that politicians bring in unpopular changes. But you either support free school meals or you don't.

 

Free school meals have been shown to improve exam results, and possibly health.

 

Do you accept that in the future more children will be affected by not getting a good meal?

 

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Do you accept that in the future more children will be affected by not getting a good meal?

 

The role out for Universal Credit comes to Sheffield in November 2018, so Sheffield children/families will be poorer.

[convert 10]

Does that make it ok, its not happening now, but it will happen over time. That is the new way that politicians bring in unpopular changes. But you either support free school meals or you don't.

 

Free school meals have been shown to improve exam results, and possibly health.

 

Do you accept that in the future more children will be affected by not getting a good meal?

 

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The role out for Universal Credit comes to Sheffield in November 2018, so Sheffield children/families will be poorer.

 

Your initial posting on this subject was wrong, nobody is 'losing' anything.

 

Anyone currently getting free school meals will still get them.

 

I agree that the poorest should be entitled to free school meals, however, once again you present this as a binary choice, when it isn't.

 

There has to be a cut off point, what I don't agree with is having a different cutoff point for NI.

[ANGELFIRE1 10]

Yet didn't one Labour politician promise to raise everyone's level to the average?

(I guess that he failed Arithmetic at school)

 

That he must have been a she, Abbott is the LIEbour mathematician. Proved beyond all doubt.

 

Angel1.

[El Cid 221]

Your initial posting on this subject was wrong, nobody is 'losing' anything.

 

 

When the £7,000 earning limit comes in and claimants that are being transferred to Universal Credit(Nov 2018 Sheffield), I believe they may be people losing out.

 

https://schoolsweek.co.uk/labour-loses-bid-to-give-free-school-meals-to-all-universal-credit-claimants/

[hackey lad 3,986]

That he must have been a she, Abbott is the LIEbour mathematician. Proved beyond all doubt.

 

Angel1.

 

Who , Diane Abacus Abbott ?:hihi:

[OPEN BORDERS 10]

Corbyn could have been a very dangerous man.

Thankfully he got as close as he will ever get to PM at the last election.

However, he may well destroy the Labour Party in the very near future and do us all a favour. Labour stopped representing the working class in the early 90's.

[convert 10]

When the £7,000 earning limit comes in and claimants that are being transferred to Universal Credit(Nov 2018 Sheffield), I believe they may be people losing out.

 

https://schoolsweek.co.uk/labour-loses-bid-to-give-free-school-meals-to-all-universal-credit-claimants/

 

 

Once again, you get it wrong.

 

The Earnings limit will be £7400, not £7000 as you stated. This, in addition to benefits should provide a family income of between £18K and £24K.

 

Plus this only applies to Y3 and above. Infants will not be affected.

 

 

Since the starting salary of a primary teacher is less than that upper limit, should be provide them with free school meals as well?

 

After all they are critical to the education of out children...

[Mister Gee 826]

Corbyn could have been a very dangerous man.

Thankfully he got as close as he will ever get to PM at the last election.

However, he may well destroy the Labour Party in the very near future and do us all a favour. Labour stopped representing the working class in the early 90's.

 

So who gets your vote now?

[hackey lad 3,986]

Corbyn could have been a very dangerous man.

Thankfully he got as close as he will ever get to PM at the last election.

However, he may well destroy the Labour Party in the very near future and do us all a favour. Labour stopped representing the working class in the early 90's.

 

His best mate Mcdonnell has done him no favours in his interview today

[convert 10]

 

Do you accept that in the future more children will be affected by not getting a good meal?

 

 

Let's look at what the independent fact checkers at C4 said...

 

 

No one who is currently eligible for free school meals under Universal Credit will lose their entitlement.

In fact, under Universal Credit, 50,000 more children will receive school meals by 2022 than would have done under the previous benefits system.

This is not a case of the government taking free school meals from a million children who are currently receiving them: it’s about comparing two future, hypothetical scenarios. Both of them are more generous than the old benefits system.

 

 

So actually, more kids getting free school meals under the Torys, than under New Labour.

 

 

Like I said before, never let the facts get in the way of a good social media meme.

 

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His best mate Mcdonnell has done him no favours in his interview today

 

Agreed. However he's done us one, and I never thought I'd say that about him!

[El Cid 221]

Let's look at what the independent fact checkers at C4 said...

So actually, more kids getting free school meals under the Torys, than under New Labour.

 

 

You seem to be sticking stubbornly to what Channel 4 have said, do you know how to search for facts?

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/183380/DFE-RR235.pdf

 

If if look at the graph on page 7, more FSM in the 1990s, then a decline, then a rise when the Tories adopted a Liberal Democrat policy to give under 7s free school meals.

 

I assume that we agree that from 2018 the figures claiming FSM would drop.

Edited March 18, 2018 by El Cid