I1L2T3 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I think its great. We're running out of natural resources and they've found another one and apparently we've got loads of it in the UK. Well done to them. Would you like a fracking well next to your house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastbank Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Would you like a fracking well next to your house? they can frack in the field at the bottom of my garden...if i get a cut of the profits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Shoes Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Would you like a fracking well next to your house? I doubt they will start fracking in Heeley. It uses a huge amount of equipment. But i do like heat & hot water in my house so i guess its a sacrifice we all have to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikes10 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Lots of anti-fracking videos on the YouTube FrackOff channel http://www.youtube.com/user/Frackoffuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Given that the majority of the Government live in/represent areas where there's no shale to frack, I expect them to be overwhelmingly in favour. The exceptions that spring to mind are Clegg, (yes, well) and Osborne, and seeing as they've aleady re-routed the planned HS2 line to avoid his constituency, I'm sure he'll not be worried. If they do go ahead, I hope the revenues are used wisely, not least for the benefit of the communities affected, and not squandered as with North Sea revenues or used to line the pockets of fat cats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairyworld14 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I am confused , what exactly is fracking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert_Baehr Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Do you think folks living in the dales (or other areas) want all this disruption to line the pockets of those already set up for life ? When they wont see a penny advantage themselves ? With the exception of Nagel's post which suggested that Fracking should be developed fully before it is implemented widely, that a system of controls be set up - and enforcement of those controls be put in place - there seems to be very little reasoned discussion going on in the UK (or elsewhere.) "They won't see a penny advantage themselves"? Really? What do you use to run electricity generating stations in the UK? Aren't many of them now gas fired? Will your hypothetical person living in the Dales be using no electricity? If he is going to use electricity (I accept he may not be on mains gas) how is he going to ensure that none of hte electricity he uses is generated by burning gas/oil produced by fracking? I heard a (somewhat silly) lady on TV yesterday saying: "We don't need fracking. We should get all our power from renewable resources." Go ahead, lady! - Where are all those 'renewable resources' you're going to use? What are you gong to do for heating and lighting in the period between the point at which demand exceeds supply and the 'renewable resources' come online? It could be some years. You won't want any heating in winter, will you? Britain's energy crisis: when will the lights go out? » The Spectator Britain 'on the brink' of energy crisis, warns regulator - Telegraph BBC News - Ofgem warns danger of power shortages has increased The UK has known for many years that a power shortage was coming. Successive governments ignored the problem. By all means go for renewable energy. - I live in a place where 40% of the electricity comes from renewable sources ... and electricity costs 25p per KwH. You too can have electricity from renewable resources - but you'll have to pay for it and unfortunately, there is no way you can make good the predicted generating power shortfalls by using renewable resources before they bite - and bite hard. If the UK decided it should be "No to fracking at any cost" can we assume that the UK will decline to buy oil and gas from those countries which produce it by fracking? - It would be more than a little hypocritical to say: "We're not allowing fracking here - but we're more than ready to buy the oil and gas you produce using that method." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I doubt they will start fracking in Heeley. It uses a huge amount of equipment. But i do like heat & hot water in my house so i guess its a sacrifice we all have to make. Just imagine you lived close to a potential site. Would you want it? ---------- Post added 20-07-2013 at 11:25 ---------- With the exception of Nagel's post which suggested that Fracking should be developed fully before it is implemented widely, that a system of controls be set up - and enforcement of those controls be put in place - there seems to be very little reasoned discussion going on in the UK (or elsewhere.) "They won't see a penny advantage themselves"? Really? What do you use to run electricity generating stations in the UK? Aren't many of them now gas fired? Will your hypothetical person living in the Dales be using no electricity? If he is going to use electricity (I accept he may not be on mains gas) how is he going to ensure that none of hte electricity he uses is generated by burning gas/oil produced by fracking? I heard a (somewhat silly) lady on TV yesterday saying: "We don't need fracking. We should get all our power from renewable resources." Go ahead, lady! - Where are all those 'renewable resources' you're going to use? What are you gong to do for heating and lighting in the period between the point at which demand exceeds supply and the 'renewable resources' come online? It could be some years. You won't want any heating in winter, will you? Britain's energy crisis: when will the lights go out? » The Spectator Britain 'on the brink' of energy crisis, warns regulator - Telegraph BBC News - Ofgem warns danger of power shortages has increased The UK has known for many years that a power shortage was coming. Successive governments ignored the problem. By all means go for renewable energy. - I live in a place where 40% of the electricity comes from renewable sources ... and electricity costs 25p per KwH. You too can have electricity from renewable resources - but you'll have to pay for it and unfortunately, there is no way you can make good the predicted generating power shortfalls by using renewable resources before they bite - and bite hard. If the UK decided it should be "No to fracking at any cost" can we assume that the UK will decline to buy oil and gas from those countries which produce it by fracking? - It would be more than a little hypocritical to say: "We're not allowing fracking here - but we're more than ready to buy the oil and gas you produce using that method." Gas isn't electricity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert_Baehr Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I'm well aware of that. Can you read? (You appear to be able to quote) "What do you use to run electricity generating stations in the UK? Aren't many of them now gas fired?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I love all these NIMBY responses. If you asked anyone whether they would want a [....insert option here..] next to their house the answer would ultimately be no. It wont matter if its a Power Station Railway New Road New Stores Hospital School College Church Mosque Synagogue Nature Reserve Nudist Camp. You cannot get around the fact that wherever they place it, its ALWAYS going to be next door to someone. It does not mean that their requirement isnt a necessary investment for the future. The world changes. 20-30 years ago all those people bought nice isolated properties surrounded by fields probably did not expect them to be turned into mass new buyer housing estates usually with a generic chain pub and a Tesco stuck in the middle of it. However they have because the damand for such things became a necessity. No wonder this country is always so far behind the rest of the world. I know what two initials I would like to say to the NIMBYs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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