cuttsie   1,096 #1 Posted May 29, 2013 I have been told that Richardson knives are not made in Sheffield even though stamped Sheffield is this against the law. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
glumps   10 #2 Posted May 29, 2013 Richardsons Sheffield is a trade name. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
cuttsie   1,096 #3 Posted May 29, 2013 Richardsons Sheffield is a trade name. And does that mean it is made in Sheffield. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
nikki-red   310 #4 Posted May 29, 2013 Financial problems exacerbated by competition eventually led to collapse in 2007 and the brands were bought by Amefa. In common with the majority of Sheffield knifemakers, production has moved abroad. Whilst much design work remains in the city, the products are imported from the Far East. The company retains 'Sheffield' in its name.  From Wikipedia...  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richardson_Sheffield Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
glumps   10 #5 Posted May 29, 2013 And does that mean it is made in Sheffield.  Clearly not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
lazarus   70 #6 Posted May 29, 2013 Its not just Richardson's, David Mellor import over 95% of their products, they only make the plastic handled range in Hathersage, their new range of black handled kitchen knives are made in China and the rest of the E.P. and S.S. are from Japan, don't get me wrong the products are very good but they are just marked David Mellor thus inferring they are made in "Sheffield", the Chinese knives are bought at a price of around $4 up to $8 and sold for between £30 and £60 all they do to them in Hathersage is put an etch mark on them. For the volume of cutlery they sell the production workforce should be at least 20 but its less than six, an impossible number to make the amount of cutlery they sell. If no one believes this just give them a ring and ask when will they be doing a run of black handled kitchen knives and listen to the excuses, we've just done a run and we cant say when we will be making them again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
L00b   441 #7 Posted May 29, 2013 And does that mean it is made in Sheffield.No, it means exactly what glumps replied: "Richardsons Sheffield" is a trade name, so any cutlery stamped or marked "Richardsons Sheffield" originates from "Richardsons Sheffield", not another cutlery company.  Same with Sony TVs that originate from Sony (not LG or Samsung), Nike trainers that originate from Nike (Not Adidas or Reebook), etc.  You are thinking about the expression "Made in Sheffield", which is protected.  It is different from "Richardsons Sheffield". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
howden   10 #8 Posted May 29, 2013 No, it means exactly what glumps replied: "Richardsons Sheffield" is a trade name, so any cutlery stamped or marked "Richardsons Sheffield" originates from "Richardsons Sheffield", not another cutlery company.  Same with Sony TVs that originate from Sony (not LG or Samsung), Nike trainers that originate from Nike (Not Adidas or Reebook), etc.  You are thinking about the expression "Made in Sheffield", which is protected.  It is different from "Richardsons Sheffield".  That may not be the case looking forward... http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/business/save-our-sheffield-fight-to-protect-city-s-unique-industrial-status-1-5718208  From The Star  Sheffield’s historic and unique status as a protected business brand is under threat – and today The Star is launching a campaign to save it.  Any firm wanting to use the name Sheffield at present has to ask the Cutlers’ Company for approval, to ensure the proposed use does not harm the city’s international reputation for quality goods.  But in the year stainless steel celebrates the centenary of its discovery by Sheffield industrialist Harry Brearley, a Government drive ‘to reduce red tape’ could see the special status axed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
L00b   441 #9 Posted May 29, 2013 I'd certainly love to see how the Gvt is going to go about "axing" this status in the name of "cutting red tape"  Don't believe the rethoric - I'm very well placed to know much of the ins & outs involved (...and I'll certainly give them a good fight, regardless) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jason Bourne   11 #10 Posted May 29, 2013 I'd certainly love to see how the Gvt is going to go about "axing" this status in the name of "cutting red tape"  Didn't those shandy-drinking southerners manage to 'protect' the cornish pasty brand, in that if it ain't baked in Cornwall it ain't Cornish?  Surely we can do something to protect of the few remaining cutlery makers in Sheffield Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
iansheff   89 #11 Posted May 29, 2013 Didn't those shandy-drinking southerners manage to 'protect' the cornish pasty brand, in that if it ain't baked in Cornwall it ain't Cornish? Surely we can do something to protect of the few remaining cutlery makers in Sheffield  And Melton Mowbray pork pies too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
L00b   441 #12 Posted May 29, 2013 Didn't those shandy-drinking southerners manage to 'protect' the cornish pasty brand, in that if it ain't baked in Cornwall it ain't Cornish?That is a related, but slightly "different" sort of protected status. Surely we can do something to protect of the few remaining cutlery makers in Sheffield I very much doubt the Gvt can validly overturn the myriad sections of the UK Trade Marks Act, articles of the EU Trade Marks Directive, provisions of the World Trade Agreement on TRIPS, and decades of relevant Case Law that are all entirely relevant to the matter, as simply as the article and soundbite-quotes suggest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...