Taxing State Pension

[Chekhov 488]

On 10/03/2024 at 16:09, RJRB said:

Whereas the Conservatives have increased taxation to record levels and have cut services across the board.

And that was happening before Covid spending.

Who would vote for more of that?

Ah another who says £400 Billion is something and nothing.......

 

>>And that was happening before Covid spending.<<

 

Perhaps you're right, our present economic situation wasn't really much to do with the government's response to Covid (strongly supported by Labour) at all ? :

 

Edited March 12 by Chekhov

[davyboy 20]

don't forget that when you reach 80  you get an extra 25p.

[RJRB 699]

3 hours ago, Chekhov said:

Ah another who says £400 Billion is something and nothing.......

 

>>And that was happening before Covid spending.<<

 

Perhaps you're right, our present economic situation wasn't really much to do with the government's response to Covid (strongly supported by Labour) at all ? :

 

Did I say that?

Of course spending on Covid and it’s effect on the economy was a major blow to our already weak economy.

How much was necessary,how much was ill advised and how much was a total waste of money will continue to be debated for ever.

However you may believe that pre Covid that the Conservative Government improved the standard of living for a great number of our population in the essentials of housing and health services then I don’t.

The current crop of Conservative MPs should certainly not be within a million miles of Government,and many wont be after the next GE.

[Annie Bynnol 617]

16 hours ago, Chekhov said:

Ah another who says £400 Billion is something and nothing.......

>>And that was happening before Covid spending.<<

Perhaps you're right, our present economic situation wasn't really much to do with the government's response to Covid (strongly supported by Labour) at all ? :

 

  Another poor attempt  to pollute unrelated threads  with your beliefs.

  You should acknowledge that the original graph has been doctored to mislead readers into thinking that The Office for National Statistics  and The Guardian are linked the data with Covid alone.

   We all know that the build up in preparation for the Russian invasion had been began a year earlier and how that impacted on all energy prices and the that senior financial advisors were commenting on the inflationary impact of Brexit.

 

  To correct your bias, here is the title of the article, the original  graph and a link to the article:

      Brexit adding to cost-of-living crisis, Mark Carney says   Published 4 November 2022

 

 

[Chekhov 488]

3 hours ago, Annie Bynnol said:

  Another poor attempt  to pollute unrelated threads  with your beliefs.

  You should acknowledge that the original graph has been doctored to mislead readers into thinking that The Office for National Statistics  and The Guardian are linked the data with Covid alone.

   We all know that the build up in preparation for the Russian invasion had been began a year earlier and how that impacted on all energy prices and the that senior financial advisors were commenting on the inflationary impact of Brexit.

 

  To correct your bias, here is the title of the article, the original  graph and a link to the article:

      Brexit adding to cost-of-living crisis, Mark Carney says   Published 4 November 2022

 

 

What are you talking about ?

Why is me putting the dates of three important events on a graph doctoring it ?

"Doctoring" would be moving the graph line or altering the axis parameters which I most assuredly did not do.

Do you know much about graphs ?

Are you denying the essential point of the graph ?

 

You are right about one thing, the BBC would never have put the Covid event lines on that graph because they were very biased about what they said about the Covid suppression policy at the time. They have been a bit more balance since, but only a bit more.

Edited March 13 by Chekhov

[Chekhov 488]

3 hours ago, Annie Bynnol said:

  Another poor attempt  to pollute unrelated threads  with your beliefs.

And it is entirely relevant for this thread because had we not shut down much of the economy (and most of society) and spent £400 Billion for Covid - a virus 99% of people were surviving - we'd have more money for the state pension......

[Annie Bynnol 617]

2 hours ago, Chekhov said:

And it is entirely relevant for this thread because had we not shut do   wn much of the economy (and most of society) and spent £400 Billion for Covid - a virus 99% of people were surviving - we'd have more money for the state pension......

    The thread is not about Covid and "... money for the state pension......" it is about when an increasing number people dependent only on State Pension find themselves goes through the  Personal Allowance threshold and paying income tax.

 

   Doctoring is when a document or data is changed, manipulated or altered to give the unreliable, false misinformation as you did. Doctoring a graph by 'adding'  your economic theory and removing the other two major factors attributed in the article by the Bank of England boss which you ignore(Brexit) or misinform(impact on Russian threat of invasion 12 months earlier.

    

 

 

[Chekhov 488]

41 minutes ago, Annie Bynnol said:

Doctoring is when a document or data is changed, manipulated or altered to give the unreliable, false misinformation as you did. Doctoring a graph by 'adding'  your economic theory and removing the other two major factors attributed in the article by the Bank of England boss which you ignore(Brexit) or misinform(impact on Russian threat of invasion 12 months earlier.

What have I added that is "unreliable" or "false" ?

Nothing.

 

And what have I removed from that original graphic ?

Nothing.

 

Methinks the lady doth protest too much.....

But then again, she does have a history of objecting to facts which are incompatible with her views on life.

[Annie Bynnol 617]

6 hours ago, Chekhov said:

What have I added that is "unreliable" or "false" ?

Nothing.

And what have I removed from that original graphic ?

Nothing.

Methinks the lady doth protest too much.....

But then again, she does have a history of objecting to facts which are incompatible with her views on life.

     You doctored the graph by adding to it and failing  to acknowledge that thus giving the impression that this was the work of the ONS and the BBC and  used to  support your Covid beliefs.

     Unlike your biased doctoring, the article from the BBC named the three major influences -Covid, Brexit and Ukraine. You failed to mention Brexit all and the Ukraine date was the date of the second invasion and ignored build up from 12 months previously.

     

[Chekhov 488]

13 hours ago, Annie Bynnol said:

     You doctored the graph by adding to it and failing  to acknowledge that thus giving the impression that this was the work of the ONS and the BBC and  used to  support your Covid beliefs.

     Unlike your biased doctoring, the article from the BBC named the three major influences -Covid, Brexit and Ukraine. You failed to mention Brexit all and the Ukraine date was the date of the second invasion and ignored build up from 12 months previously.

The lady doth protest too much.....

 

>>your Covid beliefs<<

 

My "Covid beliefs" are either straight forward facts or the majority view these days.

The world's response to Covid (the general suppression of society which had never been done before in the 50,000 year history of human society) was the biggest over reaction in the history of the world.

All for a virus 99% of people were surviving and which had an average age of death in the early 80s......,

[Organgrinder 1,946]

2 hours ago, Chekhov said:

The lady doth protest too much.....

 

>>your Covid beliefs<<

 

My "Covid beliefs" are either straight forward facts or the majority view these days.

The world's response to Covid (the general suppression of society which had never been done before in the 50,000 year history of human society) was the biggest over reaction in the history of the world.

All for a virus 99% of people were surviving and which had an average age of death in the early 80s......,

Wrong thread  -  this is about taxing state pensions.

[HeHasRisen 3,432]

Any excuse to pollute threads with his Covid crap. Surprised it's been allowed to carry on unchecked for so long.