Cannabis Joint To Open In Doncaster

[Rockers rule 673]

18 minutes ago, abbeyedges said:

I totally agree. I despair at the relationship many, many people in this country have with alcohol.

 

Want to take the pressure off the NHS then make supermarkets charge more for alcohol.

 

 

Why should everything be 'put the price up'.

I don't drink through choice.

I don't preach against alcohol, why shouldn't people be allowed to enjoy a drink.

 

Perhaps the NHS could offer day trips to the Northern Generals 'Liver Ward' instead, that'd take the pressure off 🧐

 

[ECCOnoob 1,053]

5 hours ago, geared said:

Nope, seems it's illegal there too and while some were allowing smoking, they found themselves in court over it.

 

https://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/Article/2007/08/03/Mayfair-club-still-allowing-smoking

I stand corrected.

 

From re looking at the legislation wording it appears exemptions can be applicable to a designated bedroom in a hotel, guesthouse, hostel, private members clubs.  So no sneaky ciggy when sat with a brandy at the bar but get one delivered to the room and you can puff away all you want.

 

Also exemption remains in specialist tobacco shops to allow persons to be 'sampling'

 

There always seems to be a loophole.

Edited January 23 by ECCOnoob

[ECCOnoob 1,053]

5 hours ago, hackey lad said:

The stuff being smoked these days is nothing like the chilled out Hippy stuff of the past 

You may be right.  But surely that gives even more reason for it to be brought under proper control, regulation on the type of plant, sold from licenced vendors with appropriate restrictions and rules on consumption and its supply.  

[hackey lad 3,995]

36 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said:

You may be right.  But surely that gives even more reason for it to be brought under proper control, regulation on the type of plant, sold from licenced vendors with appropriate restrictions and rules on consumption and its supply.  

People will still get it and grow it .

[Anna B 1,417]

 

19 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

You may be right.  But surely that gives even more reason for it to be brought under proper control, regulation on the type of plant, sold from licenced vendors with appropriate restrictions and rules on consumption and its supply.  

I agree.

Cannabis coffee shops cause no difficulties in Amsterdam. They are plentiful and nobody raises an eyebrow. It is a carefully controlled (and taxed) substance. If Alcohol was introduced as a new product these days it would undoubtedly be regarded as a dangerous substance too.

 

As with alcohol and many other things cannabiit can be abused but speak to any policeman and they will tell you they'd rather deal with a cannabis user than a drunk anyday. Alcohol promotes aggression, cannibis promotes relaxation. I admit I never liked the smell, but now it doesn't bother me, I even quite like it.  

 

The biggest problem is that in the UK, because it is illegal, it is regarded as a 'Gateway drug.'

Similar to Prohibition in America, low life Drug Barrons and Gangs run the supply chains. The Dealers gather cannabis clients with a product of dubious quality, then start pushing hard drugs onto them; bigger and better mark up and subsequent addiction. And having to aquire it illegally means mixing in the realms of drug dealers and gangs which is never a good idea. But IMO It's criminalising it that causes the problems.

 

Just my opinion. I don't suppose everyone will agree with me, and that of course they are entitled to do. I suspect there will be people who can site cases of it spoiling lives, but remember it has been used as a medicine for centuries.

Used wisely, a lot of people could find it helpful. 

Edited January 24 by Anna B

[abbeyedges 85]

1 hour ago, Anna B said:

 

I agree.

Cannabis coffee shops cause no difficulties in Amsterdam. They are plentiful and nobody raises an eyebrow. It is a carefully controlled (and taxed) substance. If Alcohol was introduced as a new product these days it would undoubtedly be regarded as a dangerous substance too.

 

As with alcohol and many other things cannabiit can be abused but speak to any policeman and they will tell you they'd rather deal with a cannabis user than a drunk anyday. Alcohol promotes aggression, cannibis promotes relaxation. I admit I never liked the smell, but now it doesn't bother me, I even quite like it.  

 

The biggest problem is that in the UK, because it is illegal, it is regarded as a 'Gateway drug.'

Similar to Prohibition in America, low life Drug Barrons and Gangs run the supply chains. The Dealers gather cannabis clients with a product of dubious quality, then start pushing hard drugs onto them; bigger and better mark up and subsequent addiction. And having to aquire it illegally means mixing in the realms of drug dealers and gangs which is never a good idea. But IMO It's criminalising it that causes the problems.

 

Just my opinion. I don't suppose everyone will agree with me, and that of course they are entitled to do. I suspect there will be people who can site cases of it spoiling lives, but remember it has been used as a medicine for centuries.

Used wisely, a lot of people could find it helpful. 

Spot on. 

Edited January 24 by abbeyedges

[Tipstaff 159]

On 24/01/2024 at 17:05, Anna B said:

 

I agree.

Cannabis coffee shops cause no difficulties in Amsterdam. They are plentiful and nobody raises an eyebrow. It is a carefully controlled (and taxed) substance. If Alcohol was introduced as a new product these days it would undoubtedly be regarded as a dangerous substance too.

 

As with alcohol and many other things cannabiit can be abused but speak to any policeman and they will tell you they'd rather deal with a cannabis user than a drunk anyday. Alcohol promotes aggression, cannibis promotes relaxation. I admit I never liked the smell, but now it doesn't bother me, I even quite like it.  

 

The biggest problem is that in the UK, because it is illegal, it is regarded as a 'Gateway drug.'

Similar to Prohibition in America, low life Drug Barrons and Gangs run the supply chains. The Dealers gather cannabis clients with a product of dubious quality, then start pushing hard drugs onto them; bigger and better mark up and subsequent addiction. And having to aquire it illegally means mixing in the realms of drug dealers and gangs which is never a good idea. But IMO It's criminalising it that causes the problems.

 

Just my opinion. I don't suppose everyone will agree with me, and that of course they are entitled to do. I suspect there will be people who can site cases of it spoiling lives, but remember it has been used as a medicine for centuries.

Used wisely, a lot of people could find it helpful. 

1.   Let those who wish to use it, go to Amsterdam then.  Cannabis is still a class B illegal substance in the UK.

 

2.   I have spoken to police officers (male and female), hundreds of them in fact and the majority of them would disagree.  If you are aggressive, you are aggressive with or without cannabis or alcohol. You now admit to liking the acrid smell of cannabis, is there something you're not telling us?

 

3.  De-criminalising  / regulating cannabis will not reduce its illegal production or supply.  It certainly hasn't with tobacco or alcohol has it?

 

4.  In my experience, those who advocate the benefits of cannabis are often themselves, users.   Believe me, I have heard every 'potty' excuse under the sun why it should be legalised, and offences ignored.  It just makes my intolerance of the abuse and use of this and other illegal substances grow stronger.

 

I expect Doncaster City Council  and SYP to do the right thing in this case.

 

[Palomar 309]

17 hours ago, Tipstaff said:

1.   Let those who wish to use it, go to Amsterdam then.  Cannabis is still a class B illegal substance in the UK.

But I want to take it in my own house, and other places where life might be enhanced by it.

 

2.   I have spoken to police officers (male and female), hundreds of them in fact and the majority of them would disagree.  If you are aggressive, you are aggressive with or without cannabis or alcohol. You now admit to liking the acrid smell of cannabis, is there something you're not telling us?

According to the World Health Organization, alcohol consumption is associated with aggressive behaviour more closely than the use of any other psychotropic substance. The relationship between alcohol consumption and aggressive behaviour has been well documented in epidemiological studies, as is the link between cannabis and a reduction in aggression. Oddly the police Insp & the Sgt in my family say -  if it was legal they'd be into it. I like the sweet smell of cannabis, it's up there with the scents of honeysuckle, sweet pea, or hyacinths as being a bit cloying, but smell is so fundamentally linked with emotion that it's hard to eliminate ones prejudices in the matter. For some the smell might evoke a celebration, a magical sunset, a Hawkwind concert aged 14, accessing flow states, the very idea of a Festival.

 

3.  De-criminalising  / regulating cannabis will not reduce its illegal production or supply.  It certainly hasn't with tobacco or alcohol has it?

If people could grow a plant in their greenhouse, garden, attic, municipal planter, the illegal supply chain would take a hard hit, people wouldn't use dealers.

 

4.  In my experience, those who advocate the benefits of cannabis are often themselves, users.   Believe me, I have heard every 'potty' excuse under the sun why it should be legalised, and offences ignored.  It just makes my intolerance of the abuse and use of this and other illegal substances grow stronger.

You should try some edibles, get the Concertos blasting out, do some air conducting, you'd love it!

 

I expect Doncaster City Council  and SYP to do the right thing in this case.

Me too

 

[hackey lad 3,995]

4 minutes ago, Palomar said:

 

I presume you are talking about old style cannabis and not the skunk that is rife now .

[Palomar 309]

2 hours ago, hackey lad said:

I presume you are talking about old style cannabis and not the skunk that is rife now .

It's like beer and wine...don't drink three pints of wine.

[hackey lad 3,995]

Just now, Palomar said:

It's like beer and wine...don't drink three pints of wine.

And ???

[Palomar 309]

1 minute ago, hackey lad said:

And ???

If you drink three pints of wine you'll not make much sense in the evening, or feel on top of things the next morning.  Must I spell it out.