El Cid 221 #1 Posted January 8 Worldwide, fertility has fallen from an average of 5 births per woman in 1950 to 2.3 births per woman in 2021, an indication of the increasing control that individuals – particularly women – are able to exercise over their reproductive lives. A birthrate of 2.1 is required to replace the existing population, many 'rich' countries have a birthrate that is less than 2.1 The UKs birthrate is 1.6 which is great if we want a lower birthrate, but do we? A lower birthrate is great for climate change, but poor countries are still at birthrates above 3 Are we taking control of our reproduction, or is our health and lifestyle working against humanity? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Prettytom 1,648 #2 Posted January 8 Incoming. 3…., 2…. 1 ……. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Delbow 708 #3 Posted January 8 Happy to see the total number of humans plummet, alright cheers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Anna B 1,417 #4 Posted January 8 (edited) 21 minutes ago, El Cid said: Worldwide, fertility has fallen from an average of 5 births per woman in 1950 to 2.3 births per woman in 2021, an indication of the increasing control that individuals – particularly women – are able to exercise over their reproductive lives. A birthrate of 2.1 is required to replace the existing population, many 'rich' countries have a birthrate that is less than 2.1 The UKs birthrate is 1.6 which is great if we want a lower birthrate, but do we? A lower birthrate is great for climate change, but poor countries are still at birthrates above 3 Are we taking control of our reproduction, or is our health and lifestyle working against humanity? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate The 'rich countries' are not so rich anymore, the money is all going to the top 1%. With poverty increasing at the bottom and working it's way up the social groups, is it surprising women are not having so many children? Edited January 8 by Anna B 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
m williamson 802 #5 Posted January 8 Generally speaking the more the standard of living increases and the wealthier a country becomes the more the birth rate decreases. The answer to overpopulation and illegal immigration is to find a way to help poorer nations prosper. One way of going about that would be to stop giving financial aid, which tends to have an unfortunate habit of mysteriously ending up in some despots Swiss bank account. Aid should be given by providing support and expertise in building hospitals, schools, water supplies and anything else which directly contributes to the welfare of the population. Provide people with a way of making a living and having a decent life and far fewer will want to leave their homeland, and its been shown that less children tend be born in those circumstances. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Pyrotequila 405 #6 Posted January 8 Jesus, looking at the map, I'm surprised any work gets done in Africa and the Middle East with all the shagging they seem to be doing 🤣 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Delbow 708 #7 Posted January 8 7 minutes ago, m williamson said: Generally speaking the more the standard of living increases and the wealthier a country becomes the more the birth rate decreases. The answer to overpopulation and illegal immigration is to find a way to help poorer nations prosper. One way of going about that would be to stop giving financial aid, which tends to have an unfortunate habit of mysteriously ending up in some despots Swiss bank account. Aid should be given by providing support and expertise in building hospitals, schools, water supplies and anything else which directly contributes to the welfare of the population. Provide people with a way of making a living and having a decent life and far fewer will want to leave their homeland, and its been shown that less children tend be born in those circumstances. The fertility rate figures really do indicate that the better off people are, the better choices they make, don't they? It's not much of a leap to surmise that this applies to behaviour other than how many children people have, such as how much they engage in criminal and antisocial behaviour. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
cuttsie 1,093 #8 Posted January 8 1 hour ago, m williamson said: Generally speaking the more the standard of living increases and the wealthier a country becomes the more the birth rate decreases. The answer to overpopulation and illegal immigration is to find a way to help poorer nations prosper. One way of going about that would be to stop giving financial aid, which tends to have an unfortunate habit of mysteriously ending up in some despots Swiss bank account. Aid should be given by providing support and expertise in building hospitals, schools, water supplies and anything else which directly contributes to the welfare of the population. Provide people with a way of making a living and having a decent life and far fewer will want to leave their homeland, and its been shown that less children tend be born in those circumstances. Birth control , Educate and inform . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
m williamson 802 #9 Posted January 8 35 minutes ago, Delbow said: The fertility rate figures really do indicate that the better off people are, the better choices they make, don't they? It's not much of a leap to surmise that this applies to behaviour other than how many children people have, such as how much they engage in criminal and antisocial behaviour. The problem with that of course is the difference between the haves and have nots in a country. Wealth inequality is a contributor toward civic unrest and crime rates. America has a high crime rate and 66.6% of the countries wealth is owned by 10% of earners while the lowest 50% of earners own only 2.6% of the county's wealth. The US has one of the highest prison populations in the world. In the UK the richest 50 families own more wealth than half of the UK population. The UK has the third highest prison population in Europe after Russia and Turkey. Both welfare and equality are important in attempting to balance things out. 17 minutes ago, cuttsie said: Birth control , Educate and inform . Agree, but unless there is also a reasonable living standard people will tend to have children as an insurance against being left at the mercy of the state in old age. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jack Grey 1,602 #10 Posted January 8 (edited) 3 hours ago, El Cid said: Worldwide, fertility has fallen from an average of 5 births per woman in 1950 to 2.3 births per woman in 2021, an indication of the increasing control that individuals – particularly women – are able to exercise over their reproductive lives. A birthrate of 2.1 is required to replace the existing population, many 'rich' countries have a birthrate that is less than 2.1 The UKs birthrate is 1.6 which is great if we want a lower birthrate, but do we? A lower birthrate is great for climate change, but poor countries are still at birthrates above 3 Are we taking control of our reproduction, or is our health and lifestyle working against humanity? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate It doesn't matter if the birthrates are falling.... People are living longer and 9 billion people still produce a lot of children. The population of the planet will continue to snowball to unsustainable levels Edited January 8 by Jack Grey 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Organgrinder 1,946 #11 Posted January 8 34 minutes ago, Jack Grey said: It doesn't matter if the birthrates are falling.... People are living longer and 9 billion people still produce a lot of children. The population of the planet will continue for snowball to unsustainable levels As many people on the planet are already driving, flying and using resources at unsustainable levels, in the same manner as you do, I wouldn't worry about it. Everybody else has a right to be as inconsiderate about the planet as you are. They can enjoy themselves too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jack Grey 1,602 #12 Posted January 8 58 minutes ago, Organgrinder said: As many people on the planet are already driving, flying and using resources at unsustainable levels, in the same manner as you do, I wouldn't worry about it. Everybody else has a right to be as inconsiderate about the planet as you are. They can enjoy themselves too. Ok 👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...