Which Source Of Weather Reports Do You Find Reliable?

[RollingJ 2,066]

2 minutes ago, butlers said:

It's mainly for outdoors folk and the difference up in the hills is amazing 

 

https://www.mwis.org.uk/

 

 

 

 Thanks, and fair enough. That is 'high altitude' stuff though, and most intelligent individuals going to such areas are aware of the potential weather conditions. Sadly, there seem to be a lot of 'day-trippers' that expect conditions there to be the same as, say, those in the nearest town/village, many, many, metres lower.

[altus 540]

18 minutes ago, butlers said:

It's mainly for outdoors folk and the difference up in the hills is amazing 

 

https://www.mwis.org.uk/

The Met Office do mountain forecasts too - e.g. Peak District.

 

I occasionally use https://www.yr.no/en too because it gives precipitation in mm rather than the rather vague 'light rain' type descriptions that are common elsewhere.

[crookesey 636]

3 hours ago, Annie Bynnol said:

    The only weather source in the UK is the Met Office, For example Crookes weather forecast.

 

 

Don’t rely on me Annie.

[Annie Bynnol 614]

    MetCheck and MWIS are both using MetOffice data, MWIS is also using its own weather station which means it's accurate now. There are dozens of other weather forecasters who use Met Office data and forecast and re-format it to make it more useful or to aim it at specialist user. Media pay for different and edit what they receive to fit the space/time slot/location. The MetOffice radar charts show past, current and forecast weather data which enables MetCheck and individuals to create their  own forecast. 

     Having lived between coast and mountains for many years the effect of them can create large local variation in wind direction and therefore temperature and moisture content creating local weather pattern pretty unique to those few square milesre that would not be described in a regional forecast. We had our own vocabulary of weather features like 'taste the salt', 'wind wall', 'window in the valley' and famously 'Red sky at night us a sailor's fright and in the morning it's a farmers warning.'

[RollingJ 2,066]

Are you 100% sure of your information? I certainly find MetCheck forecasts more accurate than those of the Met Office.

Can't be bothered to post the rest of my thoughts, but you do seem to have a fascination for promoting 'the OFFICIAL' source, even though I pointed out earlier that they seem sometimes incapable of actually interpreting the evidence in front of their eyes.

 

[Annie Bynnol 614]

1 hour ago, RollingJ said:

Are you 100% sure of your information? I certainly find MetCheck forecasts more accurate than those of the Met Office.

Can't be bothered to post the rest of my thoughts, but you do seem to have a fascination for promoting 'the OFFICIAL' source, even though I pointed out earlier that they seem sometimes incapable of actually interpreting the evidence in front of their eyes.

 

    For a variety of reasons individuals will often find a weather forecast service that they prefer to use. The source of information for forecasting is the same but the usefulness of the interpretation is another matter. For example regional television in Yorkshire has Sheffield in the south west extremity of their map which means we cannot see what is happening in Derbyshire, which for 70% of the time is where the weather is coming from. So these TV weather forecasts will be less useful for us. Another example specific to me is surface temperature. As we live 'high up' knowing the forecast for ice is a priority. It would be impossible for a media outlet to be specific about this for the region except in very general terms. The Met Office provides live and forecasted information for surface temperature and humidity which I can adjust with my local knowledge to inform me of probable ice conditions. Also businesses can buy from some forecasters very specific reports or alerts.

    MetaCheck uses a range of sources for their data which they then interpret for us, some of this data is from the Met Office as can be seen on their pages and therefore should be very accurate. The Met Office use their own and other data and also provide forecasts. The media buy forecasts from the likes of the Met Office and MetCheck, usually they buy a script, sometimes they interpret again for the benefit of the audience. What they say is therefore third hand and therefore prone greater error.

     If you are comfortable with MetCheck and it provides you with information in a way that you like-fine, but the accuracy will not be any better than the Met Office which collects, provides and presents far more detailed and updated data. 

    Current MetCheck charts are between 4 and 22 hours old. 

    Current Met office charts are live.

[RollingJ 2,066]

@Annie Bynnol- OK, i accept your general points, but I would still like to know why, when radar information shows clearly that there is a 99.9% chance that an area is highly likely to suffer a major chance of significant rainfall, the Met Office weather app, updated as the specific instance I mentioned earlier was, still showed in its summary for the day, no chance of rain - it was actually showing 'a sunny day' .  The radar clearly showed the impending heavy rain approaching, so that should have been reflected in the summary, surely? This has not been an isolated incident, either.

[Annie Bynnol 614]

37 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

@Annie Bynnol- OK, i accept your general points, but I would still like to know why, when radar information shows clearly that there is a 99.9% chance that an area is highly likely to suffer a major chance of significant rainfall, the Met Office weather app, updated as the specific instance I mentioned earlier was, still showed in its summary for the day, no chance of rain - it was actually showing 'a sunny day' .  The radar clearly showed the impending heavy rain approaching, so that should have been reflected in the summary, surely? This has not been an isolated incident, either.

     I don't know.    

     I don't find the daily summary written hours before  particularly useful as it is regional rather than local and like you running the radar map forward is a far better predictor. 

     The  Met Office web page never goes down to 0% chance of rain and certainly on the coast and mountains local conditions can bring about very quick and aggressive changes -hence the specialist forecasts and warnings.

     To be safe you could use two interpretations and keep the radar app working.

[petemcewan 27]

The Shipping Forecast.

Met Office.

[alchresearch 215]

BBC now use Meteo Group for forecasts, I find those the most accurate these days.

 

Met Office and Weather Action just supply scaremongering reports for the tabloids to lap up.

 

Channel 4 weather presenter takes aim at Express and other tabloids in crusade against ‘fake weather stories’

https://pressgazette.co.uk/news/channel-4-weather-takes-aim-at-utter-garbage-daily-express-weather-reports/

 

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“I see some of the tabloids are up to their old tricks – trying to make snow that’ll affect a few who live high up on a mountain sound like snow for everyone,” he said in another tweet.

Here's the Mirror article in question:

 

Huge blizzard to cover UK in 6cm of snow as temperatures plummet to -10C
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/massive-blizzard-set-cover-uk-29143829

 

and the actual "facts" buried in the article:
 

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Meteorological maps showed a band of snow headed towards Scotland, where upwards of 6cm was forecast in the Highlands and the west from Wednesday.

So now a small portion of Scotland's highlands is "the UK"

Edited February 9, 2023 by alchresearch

[XPertByExperien 167]

Going out in the weather! If it's raining bad, I'll turn round and go back!

 

 

[PRESLEY 1,233]

Just look out of the window in a mornin, that'll tell you.