Gender Fluid etc, Opinions?

[Halibut]

Your personal opinion dosnt make it fact . its just your view

 

It's a fact that the 99% he quoted was a total fabrication. My view is that the poster in question is deeply ignorant of other people's experience, fearful of that which he doesn't understand and has very little empathy or emotional intelligence.

 

Is that better?

[ukdobby]

The interesting part of the link I put on (I don’t think I did the link thing right but you can find it) is the effect on young children.

 

It’s alright adults passing comment on what children should or shouldn’t be allowed to be perceived as from a gender point of view - but the impact on children not yet capable of making that decision/dealing with those choices can be damaging.

 

There are other examples available online on the confusion it causes when children feel what is seen as gender conformance is looked on unfavourably - ie girls feeling bad about doing “girl things” and vice versa.

 

It’s important to take that into account - and to be wary of the current leaning to gender fluidity doesn’t make you a bigot.

 

http://metro.co.uk/2017/08/13/trangender-mum-and-pansexual-dad-raising-child-in-britains-first-gender-fluid-family-6848824/.

[Halibut]

http://metro.co.uk/2017/08/13/trangender-mum-and-pansexual-dad-raising-child-in-britains-first-gender-fluid-family-6848824/.

 

And your view about the family in the link is...?

[nowt2pctoday]

And your view about the family in the link is...?

 

well there is a case of child abuse if ever there was, personal influence of adults views and preferences on young children is sick and wrong. the poor kid has no choice in this and may seem happy as thats all hes known:loopy:

social services should be in there sharpish.

[ukdobby]

And your view about the family in the link is...?

 

I think its quite obvious the kid has a good chance of being ridiculed which is not going to help him one bit,what about your view?

[alchresearch]

This is the Piers Morgan piece:

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4961910/Good-Morning-Britain-Piers-gender-fluid-guest.html

 

Interesting to read the comments at the end and which are the highest voted.

[Chez2]

I think its quite obvious the kid has a good chance of being ridiculed which is not going to help him one bit,what about your view?

 

I kind of have to agree, but not for the reasons you all probably think.

 

In my opinion, kids should not be given toys or clothes that are gender stereotypical so the parents are doing the right thing there. I think they are making too much of a big thing, too much fuss about everything. They should do it quietly so the kid doesn't realise what is going on. Parents should gently guide their kids rather than force their views on them.

 

I can remember my parents trying to dress me as a kid. I wouldn't let them do it or pick my clothes. They did used to buy my clothes but if there was something I didn't like I wouldn't wear it. If I chose clashing items that were unsuited to the occasion they would gently guide me. Isn't this what all parents should do? I'm not saying my parents were perfect. I just feel people are making too much of a big thing about developing a style and identity, something we all have to do irrespective of our gender.

[ukdobby]

Don't you think they're forcing a name on him which I,m pretty sure he won't want when he gets older and making him wear pink socks.

[Michael_W]

I kind of have to agree, but not for the reasons you all probably think.

 

In my opinion, kids should not be given toys or clothes that are gender stereotypical so the parents are doing the right thing there. I think they are making too much of a big thing, too much fuss about everything. They should do it quietly so the kid doesn't realise what is going on. Parents should gently guide their kids rather than force their views on them.

 

I can remember my parents trying to dress me as a kid. I wouldn't let them do it or pick my clothes. They did used to buy my clothes but if there was something I didn't like I wouldn't wear it. If I chose clashing items that were unsuited to the occasion they would gently guide me. Isn't this what all parents should do? I'm not saying my parents were perfect. I just feel people are making too much of a big thing about developing a style and identity, something we all have to do irrespective of our gender.

 

There are certain norms in life that as a society we are expected to and generally adhere to, people don't get to choose to do what they please all the time, regardless of how much freedom of choice we have today. We are expected to go to school, wear a uniform, get an education, go to work to allow us to home, feed and clothe ourselves and our families, if choices allow the fabrics of society to break down we are on a very slippery slope.

How fortunate that you could pick and choose what you wanted to wear even if your parents had bought your clothes, presumably at an early age you were given those choices but not everybody is, I remember an era when we wore hand me downs, thank god I never had an older sister

[Chez2]

There are certain norms in life that as a society we are expected to and generally adhere to, people don't get to choose to do what they please all the time, regardless of how much freedom of choice we have today. We are expected to go to school, wear a uniform, get an education, go to work to allow us to home, feed and clothe ourselves and our families, if choices allow the fabrics of society to break down we are on a very slippery slope.

How fortunate that you could pick and choose what you wanted to wear even if your parents had bought your clothes, presumably at an early age you were given those choices but not everybody is, I remember an era when we wore hand me downs, thank god I never had an older sister

 

I don't see what you are driving at. I don't see how your comments are relevant to my post or gender fluidity. They certainly aren't a reply / response to the points I raised. I never mentioned being a rebel as you seem to make out. I merely pointed out that I had my own mind at a young age.

 

Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me? I'm of the age where clothes were home made and purchased frugally and seasonally ie a small set at winter, Whitsuntide and a few bits at the height of summer. Only as a teenager in the 1970s did clothes buying become a more everyday occurrence. Irrespective of that, if I didn't want to wear something, I wouldn't.

 

The only bit I would find a little controversial is a boy wanting to wear a dress or skirt as an everyday outfit. I would fear that would leave them open to bullying. I know of young boys that have playing / dress up clothes that are designed for females. Nobody I know has a problem with that. Why tell a young boy he can't play dress up or go to a fancy dress party as one of his favourite film characters?