The Consequences of Brexit [part 4]

[ricgem2002 11]

Typical Brexiter logic there.

 

If we don’t know who the criminals are we can’t send them back.

 

Unless of course you’re arguing that we deport all EU citizens but then you’d have to be in full fruitcake mode.

so are you happy then that the eu will not disclose serious euoropean criminals living in the uk/ or serious uk criminlas living in the eu :roll::roll:

[I1L2T3 10]

Why don't we know who they criminals are ?

 

Because we won’t have access to the EU database of convicted criminals.

 

Please keep up. This particular issue is very easy to understand.

 

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so are you happy then that the eu will not disclose serious euoropean criminals living in the uk/ or serious uk criminlas living in the eu :roll::roll:

 

No but why should they?

[Top Cats Hat 10]

just shows how many eu criminals reside in the uk hopefully when we out we send the criminals back too

 

You are funny!

 

How do you know that 90% of those warrants weren't for UK citizens who had committed crimes in other EU countries?

[ricgem2002 11]

Because we won’t have access to the EU database of convicted criminals.

 

Please keep up. This particular issue is very easy to understand.

 

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No but why should they?

ah scaremongering again but some people will be easily fooled remind you of anyone :hihi:

[hackey lad 3,989]

Because we won’t have access to the EU database of convicted criminals.

 

Please keep up. This particular issue is very easy to understand.

 

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No but why should they?

 

Please keep up , Im not talking about when we leave , im talking about now and in the past . Don't be rude

[I1L2T3 10]

Please keep up , Im not talking about when we leave , im talking about now and in the past . Don't be rude

 

I’m talking about when we leave too.

 

There is of course the Brexiter wet dream of vetting to the nth degree everybody who wants to visit.

 

But then that would be turned back on us, and a lot of businesses and tens of millions of British leisure travellers would quickly get racked off with it.

 

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ah scaremongering again but some people will be easily fooled remind you of anyone :hihi:

 

Right, so Barnier has his own project fear now as well. I see.

 

Brexiter logic: anything that is bad about Brexit cannot be true.

[ricgem2002 11]

You are funny!

 

How do you know that 90% of those warrants weren't for UK citizens who had committed crimes in other EU countries?

not as funny as some on here 2 years down the line our economy hasnt collapsed/ unemployment is at its highest regarding the doom merchants on here saying we are all doomed its not happening get used to it, come brexit day lets rejoice we are free of the shackles of the dreaded eu :hihi::hihi:

 

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Right, so Barnier has his own project fear now as well. I see.

 

Brexiter logic: anything that is bad about Brexit cannot be true.

remoaner logic: anything good about brexit cannot be true:hihi::hihi:

[I1L2T3 10]

not as funny as some on here 2 years down the line our economy hasnt collapsed/ unemployment is at its highest regarding the doom merchants on here saying we are all doomed its not happening get used to it, come brexit day lets rejoice we are free of the shackles of the dreaded eu :hihi::hihi:

 

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remoaner logic: anything good about brexit cannot be true:hihi::hihi:

 

What is good about Brexit?

[hackey lad 3,989]

I’m talking about when we leave too.

 

There is of course the Brexiter wet dream of vetting to the nth degree everybody who wants to visit.

 

But then that would be turned back on us, and a lot of businesses and tens of millions of British leisure travellers would quickly get racked off with it.

 

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Right, so Barnier has his own project fear now as well. I see.

 

Brexiter logic: anything that is bad about Brexit cannot be true.

 

Avoiding / shuffling the question again . You replied to post 9810 which if you read it properly talked about the past , not after we leave

[Longcol 610]

What is good about Brexit?

 

The answer to that could be seen on the faces of Gove and Johnson the morning after the referendum - gloomiest "winners" I've ever seen

[altus 540]

so are you happy then that the eu will not disclose serious euoropean criminals living in the uk/ or serious uk criminlas living in the eu :roll::roll:

The EU haven't said they wont give us the information - they've said the UK can't use the existing mechanism because that is governed by the ECJ and underpinned by the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights neither of which the UK wants to be bound by after brexit.

 

It's just another in the very long list of things which brexiters haven't considered that will need to be discussed and sorted out during the negotiations.

[L00b 441]

The reasons why there are 12k arrest warrants for EU crims in the UK, and 'only' 1,5k warrants for UK crims in EU27, are:

 

(i) no formal vetting or registration whatsoever on arrival in the UK (UK government's prerogatives long available under EU law, and not exercised = UK government's fault)

 

(ii) no ID cards system, nor any legal personal duty to carry identification in UK (successive UK governments' decision -or failure, makes no odds- and therefore fault)

 

(iii) overuse of producers (like any EU crim with an arrest warrant against him is gonna walk into a cop shop to produce within 7 days ) due to free-falling numbers of police officers (less and less resources to enforce non-time-critical tasks/missions) (successive UK governments' decision -or failure, makes no odds- and therefore fault)

 

(iv) simple statistics: EU27 criminals flee to the permissive (see (i) to (iii) above) UK from a pool of 450m people, UK criminals flee to Spain (mostly) from a pool of 55m people, do the maths.

 

But yeah, whatever, it's all the EU, Brussels, Barnier...anyone else's fault. I really can't wait for March next year. It'll all still be the EU's fault of course, but by then you'll be starting to take the medicine. Without vaseline

Edited June 19, 2018 by L00b