Vague_Boy Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 These are the folk who voted for him as their party leader. Why???? David Cameron wasn't standing for Labour leader? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I think that one of the things that made Miliband's positions untenable, was the constant undermining and sniping by the Blairites who felt cheated that Miliband's brother never got the job. I agree. And what is especially toxic in the Parliamentary Labour Party is the constant sniping between the Blairites and the Brownites. There is no difference between them in policy terms; just factions sniping at one another, in the hope of gaining favour from their respective courts. At least Jeremy Corbyn is outward looking, and is offering a different narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I agree. And what is especially toxic in the Parliamentary Labour Party is the constant sniping between the Blairites and the Brownites. There is no difference between them in policy terms; just factions sniping at one another, in the hope of gaining favour from their respective courts. At least Jeremy Corbyn is outward looking, and is offering a different narrative. It seems that Cornyn's achieved something no one else in Labour could, he's reunited the factions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vague_Boy Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 It seems that Cornyn's achieved something no one else in Labour could, he's reunited the factions. Against Jeremy Corbyn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Against Jeremy Corbyn? It does seem that way. I think that this was the plan all along. As I said earlier: Now Corbyn's come along the two factions have joined together to oppose the left of the party. I always thought it was fishy that Chuka Umunna pulled out of the leadership race right after he went on the Sunday morning politics shows with Lord Mandelson. I expect Chuka Umunna to become the next Labour leader and he'll bring them back to the middle ground and make them seem more relevant to the electorate. Remember that it looks like whoever leads Labour into the next election will be up against an unpopular Chancellor or Boris Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lottiecass Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 It does seem that way. I think that this was the plan all along. As I said earlier: Now Corbyn's come along the two factions have joined together to oppose the left of the party. I always thought it was fishy that Chuka Umunna pulled out of the leadership race right after he went on the Sunday morning politics shows with Lord Mandelson. I expect Chuka Umunna to become the next Labour leader and he'll bring them back to the middle ground and make them seem more relevant to the electorate. Remember that it looks like whoever leads Labour into the next election will be up against an unpopular Chancellor or Boris Johnson. I think you are right about Chuka,but Boris? but you never know personality goes a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I agree. And what is especially toxic in the Parliamentary Labour Party is the constant sniping between the Blairites and the Brownites. There is no difference between them in policy terms; just factions sniping at one another, in the hope of gaining favour from their respective courts. At least Jeremy Corbyn is outward looking, and is offering a different narrative. If you mean he walks about with his head in the clouds you're dead right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANGELFIRE1 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Jeremy Corbyn, the Conservatives best friend. He simply makes the Liebour party unelectable, to the glee of the Tory's. As to why he was elected, only the Holy Trinity has that answer I think. Angel1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I think you are right about Chuka,but Boris? but you never know personality goes a long way. I can't see anyone else beyond Osborne and BoJo fighting out to take over from Cameron before the next election. Osborne may be popular within the Tory circles but it has to recognised that he has become a decisive figure amongst the population. Whereas BoJo is as Bojo does, so I could see him carrying it off to win the Tory Leadership. If Chuka Umunna gets in early and makes Labour relevant towards the electorate then he may be worth an outside bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon1 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 These are the folk who voted for him as their party leader. Why???? Because he's interesting, honest And appears to have some integrity... Unlike everyone else in that circus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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