Ridgewalk   101 #49 Posted November 13, 2015 France is more involved militarily than we are in Islamic countries. France has a much larger Moslem population than we do. Poverty, crime, street drugs and unemployment is much worse in the banlieus surrounding large French cities than in similar Uk cities. France is stuck with rigid 18th century Republican values which will always rub up against religious belief whereas UK has a more liberal approach to diversity hence more inclusive. France is more racist than UK.  A certain view of the world by radical Islamists will always be a threat to Western values Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
scania   10 #50 Posted November 13, 2015 If Muslamic nutters got hold of nuclear weapons why would our subs act as a deterrent? They are irrational God botherers who believe in an afterlife. Nukes are not a deterrent against the mentally deranged.  Very well put. I'm not worried if the islam extremist dog turds get hold of a nuclear sub because they are so mentally challenged, they would probably assume it was a suppository for a humpback. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
I1L2T3 Â Â 10 #51 Posted November 13, 2015 Not surprising at all. It's a miracle that the French have kept a lid on this for so long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   864 #52 Posted November 13, 2015 France is more racist than UK. you said it  ---------- Post added 13-11-2015 at 23:14 ----------   Very well put. I'm not worried if the islam extremist dog turds get hold of a nuclear sub because they are so mentally challenged, they would probably assume it was a suppository for a humpback. you was doing so well till the last bit Oo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MikeFrank   10 #53 Posted November 13, 2015 cos you cant afford all of one and all of another? do nukes actually matter? just cos ones got one does it matter if the other has? if one presses the button is the second ones gonna go faster? its a lose lose situation  Well. Not really. Not all nuclear weapons are planet destroyers. There are tactical nuclear weapons as well.  Say if we got into a conventional war with Russia. It was a stalemate so they dropped a small nuclear devise on a town, completely destroying it, say Chesterfield. Demanding we surrender or Rotherham goes next.  If we have no nuclear weapons, tactical or otherwise, we'd have to surrender.  If we have them this scenario would not happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
dangerousedd   10 #54 Posted November 13, 2015 news reporting concert hall siege has ended. they killed 2 terrorists Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Happ Hazzard   10 #55 Posted November 13, 2015 Corbyn probably will be complaining tomorrow that they weren't captured and put on trial. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Nagel   10 #56 Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) if they got hold of pakistani nukes it wouldnt matter if we have trident or not, theyd press the button  The Pakistani nukes can't reach Britain.  But we can nuke them. Edited November 14, 2015 by Nagel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Happ Hazzard   10 #57 Posted November 14, 2015 Explosion could be heard during the France vs Germany game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MLAR Â Â 10 #58 Posted November 14, 2015 Corbyn probably will be complaining tomorrow that they weren't captured and put on trial. Â Actually, this is what he said. Â Is there nothing serious enough on this planet to stop you from spouting ridiculous, disrepectful drivel? Â You should be ashamed of yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
sedith   19 #59 Posted November 14, 2015 The only reason it hasn't happened in the UK is that we are an island. .... Yet!!!! How can you seal off a country like France with eight borders with other countries? They haven't a clue who is in the France at any one time, it's an impossible situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
muddywolf   10 #60 Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) cos you cant afford all of one and all of another? do nukes actually matter? just cos ones got one does it matter if the other has? if one presses the button is the second ones gonna go faster? its a lose lose situation  Trident acts as a deterrent to all negative forces, most wouldn't launch an attack as a risk of being wiped out in the process, your example of terrorist is true (ie martyrdom) but they are only a small portion of what it may deter.  Pumping extra money into intelligence won't necessary help, look at Lee Rigby it was 2 people who communicated face to face with only a blade, there is no easy answer to preventing this extra money anywhere wont provide a fix. Edited November 14, 2015 by muddywolf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...