muckymurphy Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 If you knew anything about what you are talking about, you would know that you don't have to attend a Traffic Penalty Tribunal hearing in person. You can send a written submission or choose to have a telephone hearing. I had a telephone call to enforcement who upheld the ticket (they would wouldn't they) then made a written submission requesting a tribunal hearing. it never got as far as a tribunal because I fought back as I was in the right. write the letter, then worry about tribunal hearings. if OP is in the right, they will hear nothing more, probably not even a response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwhite78 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I had a telephone call to enforcement who upheld the ticket (they would wouldn't they) then made a written submission requesting a tribunal hearing. it never got as far as a tribunal because I fought back as I was in the right. write the letter, then worry about tribunal hearings. if OP is in the right, they will hear nothing more, probably not even a response. Agreed, I'm that confident the OP will win if these goes to a tribunial that I will pay him / her the fine myself if I'm wrong. If you've received a NTO make sure to mark your response as formal appeal. SCC Parking services are known on Pepipoo as some of the nastiest and most corrupt in the country. Councils never admit that they are wrong, until you want to take it to tribunal. Until this point they will keep on with their cleverly written responses in order to claim money from you. ---------- Post added 28-09-2015 at 00:38 ---------- I've recently been issued a parking penalty for parking on what was genuinely not known to be a yellow line as it was beyond any reasonable state of repair. When I returned I was issued a ticket and the penalty stated parking in a time controlled zone which there is none in operation what's so ever on the top end of Granville Road however it's quite likely at the bottom near the colleges there is. When I contented this I was then told it is due to the yellow lines and not the timed zone marked clearly on my ticket and surely a picture of me parked on badly and broken in over 70% of the total line and now told my penalty is for this and is still being upheld. And in the Dark this line had no chance of ever been seen as in my case. Soooo.... 3 weeks later after them not receiving any feedback or fine payment guess what there is now a solid bright yellow newly painted line! Hiding there tracks however not only does there photo proof my point but I also had taken my own photos of the entire line.. Any advice or suggestions regarding the law here as citizens advise website gives reasons for a ticket to be invalid one of which says poor state of the line or a wrongly issued ticket which mine covered both but they still demand now £105 which increase by 50% each month but they can prey as they wont be seeing it, I pay road taxes for maintained roads and this certainly wasn't and I feel there using scare tactics with someone that doesn't scare so easily. Post all your details on this forum >> http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=30 I'm that confident you'll win this PCN if you appeal properly. if I'm wrong I'll pay the fine for you myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner1 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I'm that confident you'll win this PCN if you appeal properly. if I'm wrong I'll pay the fine for you myself. Easy promise to make when you already know the OP is out of time to make an appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRESLEY Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 i understood it and thats all that matters, So true, thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh2052 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 About 10 years ago l was parked just behind Parkhill flats above the train station, l received my one and only parking ticket. The reason was very similar...there weren't any lines at all as they had completely worn off for about 30feet. I challenged it like you to no avail. Their answer....just because you can't see the lines doesn't me they aren't there. No win situation with the Council Parking Vultures. I've recently been issued a parking penalty for parking on what was genuinely not known to be a yellow line as it was beyond any reasonable state of repair. When I returned I was issued a ticket and the penalty stated parking in a time controlled zone which there is none in operation what's so ever on the top end of Granville Road however it's quite likely at the bottom near the colleges there is. When I contented this I was then told it is due to the yellow lines and not the timed zone marked clearly on my ticket and surely a picture of me parked on badly and broken in over 70% of the total line and now told my penalty is for this and is still being upheld. And in the Dark this line had no chance of ever been seen as in my case. Soooo.... 3 weeks later after them not receiving any feedback or fine payment guess what there is now a solid bright yellow newly painted line! Hiding there tracks however not only does there photo proof my point but I also had taken my own photos of the entire line.. Any advice or suggestions regarding the law here as citizens advise website gives reasons for a ticket to be invalid one of which says poor state of the line or a wrongly issued ticket which mine covered both but they still demand now £105 which increase by 50% each month but they can prey as they wont be seeing it, I pay road taxes for maintained roads and this certainly wasn't and I feel there using scare tactics with someone that doesn't scare so easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Clean Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 Last year I was issued a parking ticket for genuinely unknowingly parking on Double yellow lines based at the top end of Granville Road. I contented this as they was not visible enough to notice and with large sections incomplete also. 4 months later Sheffield council in there wisdom then decided to repaint them after a call from a local areas councilor expressing there lack of marking visibility. 1 yr later Sheffield council are still pursuing me for this ticket despite painting them but previously claimed that if the average person can notice them then they are considered fine? so what does Sheffield council consider the average person I emailed them to ask what is considered in the eyes of the council a faded line but except able quality and whats a faded but not excepted quality and if the could supply images to support fair and unfair..guess what they tracked my email address first before answering the question making it a bias opinion and could see i had a case open and so i was fobbed off. does anyone have a experience of a tribunal with Sheffield city council for similar parking issues or have a case than was won and on what grounds/logic that I can use as supporting evidence for my case. as whats not fair is that if i had not taken my own pictures pre-repaint I would have been left with no evidence of the poorly maintained lines with over 1 meter of line missing too. thank you people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest busdriver1 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 was there also signs on nearby lampposts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Clean Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 no none whats so ever either side of the road but apparently there not required for double yellow lines either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancs_Lad Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Last year I was issued a parking ticket for genuinely unknowingly parking on Double yellow lines based at the top end of Granville Road. I contented this as they was not visible enough to notice and with large sections incomplete also. 4 months later Sheffield council in there wisdom then decided to repaint them after a call from a local areas councilor expressing there lack of marking visibility. 1 yr later Sheffield council are still pursuing me for this ticket despite painting them but previously claimed that if the average person can notice them then they are considered fine? so what does Sheffield council consider the average person I emailed them to ask what is considered in the eyes of the council a faded line but except able quality and whats a faded but not excepted quality and if the could supply images to support fair and unfair..guess what they tracked my email address first before answering the question making it a bias opinion and could see i had a case open and so i was fobbed off. does anyone have a experience of a tribunal with Sheffield city council for similar parking issues or have a case than was won and on what grounds/logic that I can use as supporting evidence for my case. as whats not fair is that if i had not taken my own pictures pre-repaint I would have been left with no evidence of the poorly maintained lines with over 1 meter of line missing too. thank you people. You will need evidence to prove they were faded at the time so I hope you have some photo's. Whatever the circumstances the best place for your appeal would be to post something on http://www.pepipoo.com Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Clean Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 Hi Yes i fortunately managed to photograph them much to there disappointment i'm sure it will be and thanks for the web link I shall take a look into it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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