Halibut Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 They're not asylum seekers if they've travelled all the way across the med and Europe. A) the boats should be intercepted as soon as they leave shore. B) they should be turned back. C End of. Empathy not one of your major attributes I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeh Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 They're not asylum seekers if they've travelled all the way across the med and Europe. A) the boats should be intercepted as soon as they leave shore. B) they should be turned back. C End of. Sent back to what? Have you seen the countries these people are running from? Have you seen who is responsible? We in the west caused this, if we have an ounce of compassion left in this country these people will be helped by us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MintPlumbing Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Sent back to what? Have you seen the countries these people are running from? Have you seen who is responsible? We in the west caused this, if we have an ounce of compassion left in this country these people will be helped by us. The West didn't cause it and we have no responsibility to solve it, although I do think we need to help make their countries safe so that they can return. Since they are mostly young men of fighting age, what about we accommodate them in training camps, train them to fight, arm them and ship them back to reclaim their countries with our help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delayed Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 They're not asylum seekers if they've travelled all the way across the med and Europe. A) the boats should be intercepted as soon as they leave shore. B) they should be turned back. C End of. So you are suggesting that we should only take Asylum Seekers from those countries that are near to us? I don't know the figures but I don't think we have many French nationals seeking asylum. A) How do you propose to fund having boats intercept every vessel that leaves each country from the Middle East, Africa, Asia etc and beyond? Don't forget we are not only taking asylum seekers from one specific country? B) They shouldn't be automatically turned back...it is possible that there are genuine Asylum Seekers....and what if children are on board? C) It's not really "End Of" as your plans will never happen....thankfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamo Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 So you are suggesting that we should only take Asylum Seekers from those countries that are near to us? I don't know the figures but I don't think we have many French nationals seeking asylum. A) How do you propose to fund having boats intercept every vessel that leaves each country from the Middle East, Africa, Asia etc and beyond? Don't forget we are not only taking asylum seekers from one specific country? B) They shouldn't be automatically turned back...it is possible that there are genuine Asylum Seekers....and what if children are on board? C) It's not really "End Of" as your plans will never happen....thankfully. One of the advantages of being an island nation far from where asylum seekers come is that we shouldn't get many. Think of it as Mother Nature paying us back for giving us crap weather compared to those countries in the Med who earn billions courtesy of their good weather. Swings and roundabouts. As for it never becoming a reality that asylum seekers are simple returned... don't be so sure. The huge numbers coming will not only create a financial strain but a social strain. It is inevitable we are going to see a political shift to the right and with that an increased risk that ultra national parties could win power. I think millions of asylum seekers are a potential catalyst for the breakup of the EU as countries opt out of being told they have to take them. The liberal minded may want to welcome these people but if we do the we may inadvertently end up with a far less liberal Europe. A little more thought is required. If the liberals who currently run the EU don't respect that most people don't want those people here then they may quickly find they no longer call the shots and it is their wishes being ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrystottle Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 If we could click our fingers and cease every conflict in the middle east and Africa tomorrow, we'd still have a massive problem. The population explosion in Africa ensures that. This is the start of an ongoing problem and I don't see any political will to tackle it; so interesting times lie ahead. Sooner or later politicians are going to have to put the violin down, stop hiding behind "tackling the evil people smugglers" and think hard about stopping this mass movement of humanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeh Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 The West didn't cause it and we have no responsibility to solve it :hihi::hihi: Thats very funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJC1 Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) The West didn't cause it and we have no responsibility to solve it Apart from selling arms, guns, missiles and bombs which the corrupt governments are now killing their own people with. And apart from sending troops into foreign places, displacing leaders and killing their people and way of life. Apart from years of colonial rule, opression and slavery. Apart from that the west has nothing to do with it. ---------- Post added 20-08-2015 at 12:00 ---------- :hihi::hihi: Thats very funny. its the funniest thing i think ive seen on SF. People have short memories. Edited August 20, 2015 by TJC1 .................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtkate Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 They're not asylum seekers if they've travelled all the way across the med and Europe. A) the boats should be intercepted as soon as they leave shore. B) they should be turned back. C End of. 23 million people have been displaced from their homes. Just 3,000 are in Calais...they are not all queuing up to get into Britain or even the EU... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamo Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Apart from selling arms, guns, missiles and bombs which the corrupt governments are now killing their own people with. And apart from sending troops into foreign places, displacing leaders and killing their people and way of life. Apart from years of colonial rule, opression and slavery. Apart from that the west has nothing to do with it. Whether you are right or wrong doesn't even matter. Most people across Europe are not up for a bit of self-flagellation to purge us of our sins. If millions of migrants from across Africa and the Middle East are allowed to settle in Europe then there will be a lurch to the right that will threaten the very existence of the EU. Kicking things off will be the UK, which will almost certainly vote 'no' at the forthcoming referendum on EU membership if forced to take migrants as part of a quota solution. This would then be followed by several other countries where a lurch to the right will see a nationalist party winning power and also heading for the EU exit... bye-bye EU. Liberals that push for migrants to be accepted on humanitarian grounds should think about what it will mean for Europe in the medium to long term. Refusal to accept the concerns of so many people risks turning Europe into a far less liberal and tolerant place than it is today. The creation of an all welcoming, nationality blind, multi-cultural, wealth-sharing Utopia is going to have to be put on ice... people just aren't ready for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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