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I'm pro fox hunting as well. The numbers need to be controlled what would you rather see a fox that's been shot and it could take a couple of painful days to die? Or hunting it with dogs where it either lives or dies a fast death I know which one is humane do you?

 

I would like to cull the pro hunters, but its illegal. Fox hunting is illegal. Deal with it.

Take up origami instead.

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I would like to cull the pro hunters, but its illegal. Fox hunting is illegal. Deal with it.

Take up origami instead.

 

What about the ratters? How about them? Should they be culled?

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What about the ratters? How about them? Should they be culled?

 

 

Rats have to be controlled for health reasons. Ratters seem to relish killing things for pleasure, just like foxhunters. We have urban foxes, they take the odd chicken and scavenge but I wouldn't go so far as to call them vermin or a pest. I see rats and voles round the local dams and ponds, ratters kill both. Terriers can't tell which is a rat and which is a vole. Voles are protected.

Only Weirdo's kill for pleasure. They have issues that need addressing.

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I would like to cull the pro hunters, but its illegal. Fox hunting is illegal. Deal with it..

 

Except of course, it isn't.

 

Deal with it.

 

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Only Weirdo's kill for pleasure.

 

U huh... but you said...

 

I would like to cull the pro hunters

 

Curious

 

They have issues that need addressing.

 

You certainly do.

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You're happy to melt rats? Nice!

BTW my posts were partly sarcasm - "sar-chasm" it turns out. It is difficult to show this in posts.

Just to be clear where I stand with not sarchasm!

 

Rats are vermin - they need to be controlled. The kindest way to do it is with dogs. They break the neck and they die quickly.

 

Foxes are vermin - they need to be controlled. The kindest way to kill them is with dogs. They catch them and kill them quickly. There are no wounded animals left to die slowly from poisoning, trapping, bad shooting etc.

 

Dropping rats or foxes into melting pots is unpleasant and sounds cruel to me, although I don't understand your sport, I will leave you to decide for yourself.

 

 

Personally I'm not bothered how people kill rats as I hate the things anyway.

I have never killed a wild animal and especially a rat through dropping it into a melting pot -

this was done by other working people - the rat having been clouted by a shovel would be dazed and being dropped into a pot of molten metal wouldn't have known anything about it, as the heat would have killed it outright within a matter of 2 seconds.

I don't go in for any sport which involves the killing of wild animals.

As for the killing of foxes by a pack of dogs - the dogs don't kill them quickly..... the fox will be alive whilst a dog(s) has the fox's head in its mouth and other dogs have the fox's hind quarters in their mouth and they just pull it apart until the poor thing dies......if you see this as being fun and humane then there's something wrong with you.

 

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You are a hypocrite because you say that foxes have as much right as a human to live but then recount having killed a rat and saying they deserve no sympathy. It is the duality of your stance that marks you out as a hypocrite.

 

Calling someone demented (suffers from dementia) is vulgar you have debased yourself with that comment and should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself.

 

I have never said that I have killed a rat !

I said that workmen at a company I use to work for use to kill them.

 

Read the post carefully before you make accusations !!!

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Rats killed by a experienced terrier/dog are killed immediately they dont have time to so much as squeak, pounce, shake gone, not cruel in my opinion (another story for the dogs though if they are bitten rat bites are very bad).

 

Foxes are chased by dogs to exhaustion, they can run no more, try to hide are terrified then ripped to pieces, this is suffering so in my opinion it is cruel...simple really.

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I'm pro fox hunting as well. The numbers need to be controlled what would you rather see a fox that's been shot and it could take a couple of painful days to die? Or hunting it with dogs where it either lives or dies a fast death I know which one is humane do you?

 

Why hunt with dogs that are slower than foxes but have more stamina then? If using dogs to kill foxes, in the interests of farm management, was done entirely out of efficiency, then a small pack of bull lurchers would be far more effective than an oversized pack of slow foxhounds. The truth is, the foxhound has been bred for the "sport" rather than an efficient kill.

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Killing is not sport, be it by gun, dog or hand.

If you do find yourself enjoying it then go and seek therapy. You probably suffer from a mental illness. If guns are your 'thing' then join the military. They will actually encourage you to play with guns. Problem for the spineless animal hunters is that military targets usually fight back, and they have guns as well. But that's not sport. IS IT ??????

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